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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: 451Mopar]
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02/04/13 09:31 PM
02/04/13 09:31 PM
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Solon, Oh
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Last year they told me it would bolt up to a stock bellhousing without modifications, but I ordered the new bellhousing too. How about the other parts like the driveshaft, shifter, crossmember, and wiring?
On the advertizement for the SS700 the holes are in for the 883, my trans they just were not put in. Probably missed by them or a mistake for application( under the pilot it was marked Ford, some Fords share the same input shaft and shifter location needed for MoPar apps)...
For the wiring you are going to have to splice it in, nothing major..
My shifter handle is on back order, Three weeks... yah right! lol
Cross member looks descent. Could pass for a stock one. A little lighter in construction though...
Speedo cable is nice, trans isolator mount is an off the shelf part...
Other, bolts shipped with the trans are in bags referring to ford apps...
The drive shaft will be ordered after I have the trans mounted in my car and I can get them the length my car requires...
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: OUTLAW MOPAR]
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02/05/13 09:04 PM
02/05/13 09:04 PM
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Solon, Oh
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I thought this was supposed to bolt to a 833 bell, does this bother any one else. And some passed off ford parts to boot. How can they get by passing this by for a Mopar application. And how about the instructions why not actually make the right instructions for the ss700 not repurposed rs600 that arent right. Why doesn't anyone call them on this, seems like people are just settling for whatever comes. Who gives a s&#@ if it is what you were told it was anyway. I was really thinking of getting on but after this im forced to rethink my decision.
I'll post some pictures of the front of the trans later tonight , for the shifter being in the center, converting the automatic trans I won't have to add the 4 speed hump...
As I stated in an earlier post, I don't know if the offset shifter is offered, call keisler on it...
As far as letting them know about what was missed or wrong on my ss700, believe me shafi has heard about it from me personally...
well, back to starting the mods for getting this ss700 on my housing...
I've turned down the pilot from 4.849 dia to the mopar bell dia of 4.807...
also today put my mopar housing Casting 2892626 on the bridgeport and dialed off the mounting holes... I'll post a picture of the results, for reference only...as castings vary in tolerance slightly from one another...
Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/06/13 10:30 PM.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Convertible Bee]
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02/06/13 01:27 AM
02/06/13 01:27 AM
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Solon, Oh
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Heres a pic of the input side of the ss700...
Will be drilling the hole pattern for a mopar housing, probably tomorrow evening...
May pull my 727 this weekend, see how things go...
Note the ford by the input seal...
if you check out the keisler ss700 ad you"ll see the 883 pattern, not on this unit though...
Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/06/13 01:44 AM.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Convertible Bee]
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02/06/13 01:59 AM
02/06/13 01:59 AM
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Solon, Oh
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bolt holes in housing reference...
sorry for the low quality, had to shrink the pixal size for it to upload...
Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/06/13 10:43 PM.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: OUTLAW MOPAR]
#1271078
02/06/13 11:53 AM
02/06/13 11:53 AM
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That is some nice machine work but how is the regular guy with no cheap access to a machine shop supposed to handle this.
I would think Keisler has a bell for this application?, it appears that member Convertib,e Bee is trying to utilize what he has on hand, which is fine if you have access to machining, and the abiity to science out the application of parts/tolerances required, otherwise pony up for a complete kit/required parts... 
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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02/06/13 11:05 PM
02/06/13 11:05 PM
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Solon, Oh
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I'll have to agree with Dayclona, on the use what I've got, but they had better get it together on pending mopar orders...
When it states it fits mopar components, then it should with out having to modify...
What machining I've done,in reality only took me about 30 minutes, though when the trans is being built would be less than 4 minutes more, every thing is already set up so it's only a few holes to drill or passes with the lathe...
Okay, that said, here's the front of the ss700 with the 883 housing holes in and the 4 others spotted...
I just wanted to see if there were other bolt options, so no, the trans case is in the back of the other 4 locations from the bell...
Housing slides on nice, .001 clearance, 4 bolts line up and thread in by hand... next step remove the 727, put ss700 on back of the 440, then cut the shift tower hole, ( automatic to manual conversion so I have to cut a little)...
Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/06/13 11:08 PM.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Convertible Bee]
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02/07/13 01:48 PM
02/07/13 01:48 PM
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man that thing looks nice. looks beefy too. do you know how heavy it is? when they are available, i will get 3 or 4 of them. i like how the shifter is internal. no more sloppy shifter boxes or missed gears. to me that alone is worth moving the shifter hole over alittle. mine are all console cars, so you would never know...... 
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Old School]
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02/07/13 02:13 PM
02/07/13 02:13 PM
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man that thing looks nice. looks beefy too. do you know how heavy it is? when they are available, i will get 3 or 4 of them. i like how the shifter is internal. no more sloppy shifter boxes or missed gears. to me that alone is worth moving the shifter hole over alittle. mine are all console cars, so you would never know......
There's no issue with shifter location on console 68-70 B Body cars, as there's an offset bracket to locate the shifter in the stock console location, you could use the offset bracket under the boot of a non console car to locate the shifter back over to the drivers side more, for a more stock appearance,...if the bracket is still being manufacturered in aluminum, I'd recommend copying/remaching it in steel, as the leverage excerted by the shifters, esp the 70 B Body pistol grip console shifters, often fatiques the threaded holes and mounting boss of the aluminum, I have mentioned this to Keisler, as I'm sure others have also
Mike
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Old School]
#1271083
02/07/13 08:31 PM
02/07/13 08:31 PM
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Solon, Oh
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man that thing looks nice. looks beefy too. do you know how heavy it is? when they are available, i will get 3 or 4 of them. i like how the shifter is internal. no more sloppy shifter boxes or missed gears. to me that alone is worth moving the shifter hole over alittle. mine are all console cars, so you would never know......
Shipping weight was 118 lbs with the crossmember and other small parts... came via ups...
For Outlaw Mopar's question
On machining my ss700, per a phone conversation with Ben at keisler, I explained to him that the pilot was too big, he asked what the bore on the housing that I was using, send the pilot back, they would remachine it but when the mount holes were mentioned, he'd have to talk to Shafi and another engineer... the out come was to buy keislers bell housing, or ship the whole thing back to have them correct it to fit my housing, that gets to where I'm at now, rewoking it myself...(I won't pay more to fix keislers oversight, shipping or parts), hopefully they're reading this and made the changes necessary to make your installs easier with no machining on your part...
As stated in an earlier post several people from keisler know my problems, hopefully you'll have a pleasant experience...
Regards Tim
Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/07/13 08:47 PM.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: 2fast4yourBrain]
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02/11/13 10:21 PM
02/11/13 10:21 PM
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Okay its bolted in, just for mock up fitment...
fits ok, quite close on the speedo cable/ electric speedo hook up...
cable is on left of tail, electric is on right...
pictures to follow...
The cross member will have to be drilled to allow the manual cable to reach, it's right in line with it and blocks off access for a straight hook up...
trans is tight on the stock unibody floor brace, right at the speedo hoook ups. Other wise there is plenty of room all around, even it an automatic tunnel...
shifter location, to me, appears to be about an inch too far forward, let me know what you think...
I will be making a bracket that puts neutral in the center of the boot...
The bracket for the stock auto shifter has to be removed, thus leaving the need for a mount bracket for the console... will address this in a few days...
I have a question, is it possible to install the drag link on a 69 b body backwards?
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