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#1271029 - 07/20/12 05:44 PM Keisler SS 700
70hemi4spdbee Offline
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So, Got a message from Keisler about the SS 700. Anyone know if they have a kit for 68-70 B bodies? Is this just more hype? Not ready, it will be months before anyone gets their hands on one? Says, "perfect fit all models"....really? No cutting anything?

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#1271030 - 08/01/12 01:26 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 70hemi4spdbee]
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well I asked Legend if it would fit in my 70 Road runner and they said it would. I was very specific in asking about the transmission crossmember clearences. I am actually going to order one so I will keep everyone posted. If i order tomorrow they said i was looking at a october delievery. I would check out their facebook pages. a few good pictures on there.

Brad

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#1271031 - 08/01/12 11:17 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 70hemi4spdbee]
451Mopar Offline
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I was looking at that too. Looks like a good price from the quote I received. I am pretty close to ordering one.

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#1271032 - 08/01/12 01:32 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: relax383]
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Well, it so happens my application is a 70 Roadrunner as well. Hemi, 4 spd, Dana, yada yada. Really wanted to wait for the Passon 5 speed. However, the SS 700 appears to be ready now. Don't want to cut "anything" though. Please keep us up to date regarding the install and your driving impressions. Can you bang the hell out of it and it still performs is the real question. Grabbing that extra gear on a long cruise and lope along is so worth the money but it has to stay together.

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#1271033 - 08/01/12 01:46 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 70hemi4spdbee]
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I will keep you guys posted but it will be a few months before i even get it in the mail.

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#1271034 - 08/09/12 12:00 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 70hemi4spdbee]
451Mopar Offline
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I ordered the SS700 today, should arrive in late October? I'll keep you posted.

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#1271035 - 09/07/12 03:46 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar]
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I'm curious, What line did they tell you?
I had a rs 600 ordered last may (5/1/2011), keisler kept delaying shipping, then they sent an option to upgrade to the ss700 earlier this year.
I'm still waiting to see a transmission from them. I was supposedly #42 on the order list.

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#1271036 - 09/07/12 06:50 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar]
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I am pretty close to ordering one.




After all the well publicized problems posted here over the years I thought you were smarter than that, Jim.

Oh well, it is your money...

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#1271037 - 09/07/12 09:10 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar]
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I ordered the SS700 today, should arrive in late October? I'll keep you posted.




I will be interested to hear how it goes.....I just requested more info and a quote for my Super Bee.....wanted to wait for Passon, but it would be nice to know there is another option without cutting up the car.

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#1271038 - 10/31/12 12:52 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: mjb765]
451Mopar Offline
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Well, End of October and still waiting.
I did get an update on the SS700 testing results.
They Dyno tested the trans to 700 ft/lbs and have 1/2 of their track testing done and it looks good so far. Link (if it works?):
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/...x3_nWsMJZciN3Gi

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#1271039 - 10/31/12 08:58 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar]
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i have a friend who has a '68 427 vette and was looking at the keisler 700 tranny. anyhow, we got together and talked to a robert hall at american powertrain (1-931-510-0087) at the goodguys in indy this september. i strongly recommend talking to the power train guy before you order or put a deposit down on the 700 tranny.

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#1271040 - 10/31/12 10:52 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: lewtot184]
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i have a friend who has a '68 427 vette and was looking at the keisler 700 tranny. anyhow, we got together and talked to a robert hall at american powertrain (1-931-510-0087) at the goodguys in indy this september. i strongly recommend talking to the power train guy before you order or put a deposit down on the 700 tranny.




I was hoping this trans would be a viable alternative after hearing disturbing rumors that the long-awaited Passon unit suffers from excessive and incurable gear noise problems.

Can you elaborate on what was said about the SS700 good and/or bad?


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#1271041 - 10/31/12 11:19 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: jbc426]
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Quote:

Quote:

i have a friend who has a '68 427 vette and was looking at the keisler 700 tranny. anyhow, we got together and talked to a robert hall at american powertrain (1-931-510-0087) at the goodguys in indy this september. i strongly recommend talking to the power train guy before you order or put a deposit down on the 700 tranny.




I was hoping this trans would be a viable alternative after hearing disturbing rumors that the long-awaited Passon unit suffers from excessive and incurable gear noise problems.

Can you elaborate on what was said about the SS700 good and/or bad?




my friend was going to buy a 700 for his vette. there was a tremec vendor, american powertrain, so we thought we'd take a look at a 700 before buying. we assumed the 700 was a tremec. apparently the 700 is a keisler tranny and not tremec. i walked away from the vendor with the belief there aren't any 700 tranny's availiable. it's a business venture that keisler is working on and none have been made. if this is true i don't think i'd put deposit money on something that doesn't exist. do some research, call some different vendors before you buy. you have to be careful about questioning the business practices of a moparts sponsor on this website. personally, i didn't have a warm fuzzy feeling about what i heard.

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#1271042 - 10/31/12 11:30 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: lewtot184]
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

i have a friend who has a '68 427 vette and was looking at the keisler 700 tranny. anyhow, we got together and talked to a robert hall at american powertrain (1-931-510-0087) at the goodguys in indy this september. i strongly recommend talking to the power train guy before you order or put a deposit down on the 700 tranny.




I was hoping this trans would be a viable alternative after hearing disturbing rumors that the long-awaited Passon unit suffers from excessive and incurable gear noise problems.

Can you elaborate on what was said about the SS700 good and/or bad?




my friend was going to buy a 700 for his vette. there was a tremec vendor, american powertrain, so we thought we'd take a look at a 700 before buying. we assumed the 700 was a tremec. apparently the 700 is a keisler tranny and not tremec. i walked away from the vendor with the belief there aren't any 700 tranny's availiable. it's a business venture that keisler is working on and none have been made. if this is true i don't think i'd put deposit money on something that doesn't exist. do some research, call some different vendors before you buy. you have to be careful about questioning the business practices of a moparts sponsor on this website. personally, i didn't have a warm fuzzy feeling about what i heard.








The RS series of transmissions are Borg Warner units, modified by Keisler (only the 68-70 B body applications are out), very much the same way they mod the Tremecs, Keisler still offers Tremec TKO for Vettes....I did a 55 Chevy with a Keisler TKO600 5 spd last year or so, no issues, if your going to convert a Vette to 5spd, go with the TKO 600 5spd either Keisler, or American Powertrain, Hurst also has a TKO 500/600 5spd kit (Summit Racing)


Mike

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#1271043 - 10/31/12 02:00 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: jbc426]
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I was hoping this trans would be a viable alternative after hearing disturbing rumors that the long-awaited Passon unit suffers from excessive and incurable gear noise problems.






where'd you hear that? first I've heard of it....
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#1271044 - 10/31/12 02:03 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: DAYCLONA]
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The RS series of transmissions are Borg Warner units, modified by Keisler (only the 68-70 B body applications are out), very much the same way they mod the Tremecs, Keisler still offers Tremec TKO for Vettes....I did a 55 Chevy with a Keisler TKO600 5 spd last year or so, no issues, if your going to convert a Vette to 5spd, go with the TKO 600 5spd either Keisler, or American Powertrain, Hurst also has a TKO 500/600 5spd kit (Summit Racing)


Mike




what borg warner tranny is it based off of? AFAIK B-W divested it's tranny production and sold it off to TTC (Tremec) in the late 90's....


Edited by patrick (10/31/12 02:05 PM)
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#1271045 - 10/31/12 02:05 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: patrick]
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I was hoping this trans would be a viable alternative after hearing disturbing rumors that the long-awaited Passon unit suffers from excessive and incurable gear noise problems.






where'd you hear that? first I've heard of it....




I shouldn't have posted it because it's just a rumor. Some chevy guys were talking about it last weekend. It's probably BS as they they were bashing Kiesler too. Take it with a grain of salt. The Passon units should be shipping soon and Jammie will see this, chime in and quash it quickly.
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#1271046 - 10/31/12 02:36 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: patrick]
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Quote:


The RS series of transmissions are Borg Warner units, modified by Keisler (only the 68-70 B body applications are out), very much the same way they mod the Tremecs, Keisler still offers Tremec TKO for Vettes....I did a 55 Chevy with a Keisler TKO600 5 spd last year or so, no issues, if your going to convert a Vette to 5spd, go with the TKO 600 5spd either Keisler, or American Powertrain, Hurst also has a TKO 500/600 5spd kit (Summit Racing)


Mike




what borg warner tranny is it based off of? AFAIK B-W divested it's tranny production and sold it off to TTC (Tremec) in the late 90's....







Borg warner T-45 5 spd .67 OD IIRC........just go to Keisler's site, info is right there explaining what mods are performed and what parts are upgraded

Mike

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#1271047 - 10/31/12 07:10 PM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: lewtot184]
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I think the SS700 is a totally new transmission Keisler is developing with Legend Gear and transmission. They are supposed to have 300 units built this year. I pre-ordered a SS700 in early August and was told to expect it in October. In mid September they took a 50% deposit and said production will start in 4-weeks, Contacted them the other day and they said they have 30 units ready to ship. It sounds that in testing they made a few tweeks to the transmission which is delaying it?
One change was the shift fork pad material.

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#1271048 - 11/01/12 12:54 AM Re: Keisler SS 700 [Re: 451Mopar]
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I think the SS700 is a totally new transmission Keisler is developing with Legend Gear and transmission. They are supposed to have 300 units built this year.






Correct, the SS700 is the next generation based on Keisler RS 400/500/600 Borg Warner T-45, updated case, internals...IIRC 2 OD ratio choices

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