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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267519
08/02/13 11:42 PM
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Knocking them out is easy a big socket to persuade them in is secondary to a press. Have you talked to a machine shop or automotive shop about pressing them in?




I don't have a large enough socket at home and don't know of many/any machine shops in the area. My mechanics are only open for 8-12 tomorrow and are generally busy. I can stop by in the morning but they don't really know I have a Dart and generally make me feel dumb or unwelcomed whenever I go in because I was naive with my Stealth. I'll try anyways.

Someone mentioned cutting the races out with a grinder. That doesn't seem like it's going to happen with the tools I have. MuuMuu + Grinder = Bad...




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You can be a hammer mechanic too.

BTW Autozone loans out tools


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: moparpollack] #1267520
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Do you have a punch and a fairly large hammer? You pound them out from the backside, give it a hit then move 180 degrees and another hit until they are out.
Then to press the new ones in you use the old races between the hammer and new race to work them in. You work them all the way down and then use the punch again on the old race to knock it back out for good (naturally you have to use care not to damage the new races).
I wish you lived near me, we'd have this whole car done in no time. Surely someone on the forum lives close and would like to see this Dart on the road again?

Sheldon

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1267521
08/03/13 01:02 AM
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You really have a nice looking ride, it'd be nice to see a nicely done GT and not a GTS or Swinger clone

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1267522
08/03/13 02:26 AM
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FVtU6Q2-Z4g&feature=related

You can be a hammer mechanic too.

BTW Autozone loans out tools




Quote:

Do you have a punch and a fairly large hammer? You pound them out from the backside, give it a hit then move 180 degrees and another hit until they are out.
Then to press the new ones in you use the old races between the hammer and new race to work them in. You work them all the way down and then use the punch again on the old race to knock it back out for good (naturally you have to use care not to damage the new races).
I wish you lived near me, we'd have this whole car done in no time. Surely someone on the forum lives close and would like to see this Dart on the road again?

Sheldon




That's not bad at all. I think I can do that all tomorrow. I just need new cotter pins and possibly a larger hammer. Those bearing race drivers are pretty nifty, but I'll try the new/old race trick. I don't think this one big enough?

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: UCUDANT] #1267523
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You really have a nice looking ride, it'd be nice to see a nicely done GT and not a GTS or Swinger clone




Thank you. I'm not necessarily a fan of the GT trim. It's in ok condition (pitted and scratched) and most of it is held on by JB Welds. Plus the driver's door is missing the trim hole mounts since it isn't original to the car. I'll keep it on for now, but when I start to do body I may just take them off but keep little bits and pieces here and there or incorporate them on other parts of the car for heritage's sake.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267524
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What my rotor/hub set looks like...

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267525
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It sure is a shame this is what's going to be hiding behind some 14" steel wheels. Would prefer some 17's on there to show off just a little. Possibly one of these wheels since they're cheap and offered in sbp: http://motechperformance.com/?page_id=22 . I would just need to clean up and install my 8 3/4 laying in my garage as I don't think the 7 1/4 would handle it.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267526
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Just went to Autozone and picked up some cotter pins, brake cleaner, and a 3lb hammer.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267527
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Things are getting done fast and the car will be on the ground tonight... Just a little irritated that I bought all new bearing races from NAPA when I found that I already had brand new Timken ones at home. This was after I already installed them!

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267528
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Things are getting done fast and the car will be on the ground tonight... Just a little irritated that I bought all new bearing races from NAPA when I found that I already had brand new Timken ones at home. This was after I already installed them!




Rule # 1: Check your inventory before you buy anything! Either the part you know you have has disappeared or the situation you just ran across. (It is a learning process) Good to hear you are productive and (seemingly) enjoying some progress.


Old, tired, and sometimes broke down. Me, not my car...
Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: Shoozy] #1267529
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Things are getting done fast and the car will be on the ground tonight... Just a little irritated that I bought all new bearing races from NAPA when I found that I already had brand new Timken ones at home. This was after I already installed them!




Rule # 1: Check your inventory before you buy anything! Either the part you know you have has disappeared or the situation you just ran across. (It is a learning process) Good to hear you are productive and (seemingly) enjoying some progress.




At least I've got back ups when the NAPA ones fail...

Yes, enjoying today's progress. Almost done. I just need to mount the calipers and put the wheels on and I'll post some pictures.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267530
08/04/13 02:11 AM
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Finally got the disc brakes on today. They look super nice. I just hope I installed everything correctly and the car actually stops and nothing breaks or falls off.

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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267531
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Here's the passenger side. One of the caliper bolts was being a PIA and wouldn't want to go in. I finally was able to force it in but had to apply a huge amount of torque. I hope I didn't strip any threads or cross thread.

I bet most of you forgot I had Bilstein RCD shocks...

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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267532
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Last one, kind of a huge milestone today as this is the first time the car has been on all 4's since about January. I'm kind of digging the low stance, patina look. Maybe I'll go with no hubcaps till I upgrade to larger wheels. Tires in the rear seem to be a little upset for holding so much weight for so long. I think one good Saturday's worth of work with a helper who can weld and bend brake lines and the car should be ready to drive. Again, really worried nothing explodes on me on the maiden voyage or something goes wrong later down the road.

As long of a day as today was, I still enjoyed myself and endured little frustration. I guess we have our good and bad days. Today was just a good one. Still debating if I should clean the garage tonight, or tomorrow...

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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267533
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make sure the parking brake works, and holds really tight. if you lose the brakes for some unknown reason, hold out the release, and use the parking brake as "the" brake. double check all connections, lines and hoses before you go. you'll be fine.


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: Golden-Arm] #1267534
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make sure the parking brake works, and holds really tight. if you lose the brakes for some unknown reason, hold out the release, and use the parking brake as "the" brake. double check all connections, lines and hoses before you go. you'll be fine.




Parking brake did not work rolling down a hill at 30 mph last I drove it back in September...

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267535
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Here's the passenger side. One of the caliper bolts was being a PIA and wouldn't want to go in. I finally was able to force it in but had to apply a huge amount of torque. I hope I didn't strip any threads or cross thread.

I bet most of you forgot I had Bilstein RCD shocks...




Eek.. Sould have run a tap through the holes first maybe.. Shouldnt have to FORCE them..


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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: mopars_1] #1267536
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Here's the passenger side. One of the caliper bolts was being a PIA and wouldn't want to go in. I finally was able to force it in but had to apply a huge amount of torque. I hope I didn't strip any threads or cross thread.

I bet most of you forgot I had Bilstein RCD shocks...




Eek.. Sould have run a tap through the holes first maybe.. Shouldnt have to FORCE them..




At that point I was just done with the car, plus I don't own any taps. I think part of the problem was the clip that holds the brake lines that also bolts onto the caliper was applying a side load. If the calipers are coming off in the future, so are the spindles for a bbp upgrade.

Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267537
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At this point I've pretty much lost almost all motivation to work on the car. I can't coordinate a time with someone to weld the firewall for me (conflicting schedules). At this point I'm thinking about buying a small welder on CL and just practicing on scrap metal before I'm comfortable to work on the car. If that doesn't happen, the car may sit for another year as school is starting in a month.

Honestly, sometimes I debate sending the car out to be done and just paying the money (which I have). Just getting the car out of the garage and not working on it defeats the point of me buying it in the first place. That and I don't really like my mechanics. They can be lazy at times.

I know, I know. I talk too much and are a broken record.

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Re: MuuMuu's 68 Dart... It's a Learning Process... [Re: MuuMuu101] #1267538
08/29/13 07:38 AM
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Send it out to have the welding done and tackle the rest yourself. That is what seems to be holding you back. Once that is done everything else seems ready to fall into place.


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