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FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? #121628
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I recently saw some flux core welding wire , and happen to be out of gas for my 110v. wire welder,and was wondering if this gasless wire works as good or better than argon! I just use it for minor sheet metal repairs ,no heavy frame type welding. Chime in let me know!!


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Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: limechallenger] #121629
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If I could help it, I would not use it! It spatters something wicked, ventilated a perfictly good pair of pants and a shirt one day. better to keep an extra bottle of gas.

Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: limechallenger] #121630
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that wire is best suited for exh repairs and for welding overhead , and yes it spatters and can leave some real ugly looking welds .

Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: JBurch] #121631
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I found that the flux-core wire carries more heat to the metal than the MIG process. The wire diameter is larger to accomodate the flux inside the wire so it has to be rigid enough so it won't collapse. It is hard to get the heat low enough. So, more burn-throughs and lots of spatter. I prefer argon/CO2 mix with sheet metal; have used flux-core for heavier repairs like subframe connectors, rear back brace, etc.



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Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: Dads426] #121632
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I found that the flux-core wire carries more heat to the metal than the MIG process. The wire diameter is larger to accomodate the flux inside the wire so it has to be rigid enough so it won't collapse. It is hard to get the heat low enough. So, more burn-throughs and lots of spatter. I prefer argon/CO2 mix with sheet metal; have used flux-core for heavier repairs like subframe connectors, rear back brace, etc.





Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: Dads426] #121633
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I am the flux core welding master and have hundreds of welds on my ride, ground down and painted to hide the uglyness of the reality of welding with flux core.

However you can get some nice looking welds if its an important spot by blocking off the splatter area.

Now I just use a my reg mig and tossed two spools of flux.

Avoid it if you can...but it does work

Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: Dads426] #121634
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I used to weld professionally and we used flux core on the heavier work to get better penetration. These were heavy duty 480v 200+ amp machines and we were running .06 (1/16") wire. I'm talking HUGE welds on heavy plate We also ran a shield gas of straight C02 with the fluxcore. That was supposed to help keep a constant current at the weld for even better heat and penetration.

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I found that the flux-core wire carries more heat to the metal than the MIG process. The wire diameter is larger to accomodate the flux inside the wire so it has to be rigid enough so it won't collapse. It is hard to get the heat low enough. So, more burn-throughs and lots of spatter. I prefer argon/CO2 mix with sheet metal; have used flux-core for heavier repairs like subframe connectors, rear back brace, etc.




thats because its a thicker OD wire diameter and you have to turn up the current .

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Flux core is terrible. I still have a spool in the garage that I wont touch. Spatters, is nasty looking and hard to get the welder adjusted properly. Argon/CO2 mix only for me.

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Only time I use it is outside, where the wind is blowing away the shield gas. Otherwise, it's great for hanging parts to paint.


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Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: limechallenger] #121638
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Agree with the concensus. Have never used flux core with my MIG after seeing a friend show me some flux core welds on exterior sheet metal welds he did on his car. Flux core got the job done...but they're pretty nasty looking welds. Not smooth like gas MIG welding.

Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: Dave440] #121639
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doesn't going from flux core to regular wire require that you change the polarity of the machine?

Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: macmic87] #121640
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I don't believe so. I can't change the polarity on my MIG and I can run FC or solid wire. However, that does open some line of thinking. Changing the polarity often can affect the way a weld runs and hence can sometimes result in more or less splatter, regardless if its flux core, solid wire or even stick arc welding

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doesn't going from flux core to regular wire require that you change the polarity of the machine?


On my Hobart(Miller) 140 you have to swap these leads depending on if you are using gas or using flux. This setup is for flux core.

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Ya learn sumpn' new every day!! I should look to see if my Hobart does that.... Only had it 10 years LOL Never burned flux core with it tho. Got the C25 bottle with the deal and always ran solid wire

Re: FLUX CORE WELDING WIRE??? [Re: Scott Carl] #121643
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my dad is a retired welding supplies salesman. when i got my portable mig it was supposed to be setup for gas, but couldn't get a bead to look good. talked to my dad and he told me that the machine was probably set up for flux core. changed the polarity and presto better welds.

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doesn't going from flux core to regular wire require that you change the polarity of the machine?


On my Hobart(Miller) 140 you have to swap these leads depending on if you are using gas or using flux. This setup is for flux core.




yes you have to change the polarity , easy to do as this picture shows . my lincoln is the same way







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