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Locking out the advance ? #1183083
02/20/12 10:32 PM
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How many members on here are locking out the advance in there MSD distributors? I have been thinking that it would help my small block idle better with the timing higher at idle but the total timing would be the same. It idles alot better when I turn the timing up but then it is too high when it advances. It will see very little street miles.

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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183084
02/20/12 10:46 PM
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locked out and start retard, works for me



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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183085
02/20/12 10:50 PM
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On one of my engines I have it locked but on the other
2 it has advance.... for yours you can put in a smaller
advance button and advance the base more to give you
the same total.... Myself I like the advance as long
as it works well (not sticking and retards)

Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183086
02/20/12 10:53 PM
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Go for it. It will make everything better,,idle, throttle response, no timing lag/fluctuation. Make sure your battery is fully charged and your starter is in good shape and you will be good to go.Some have complained about kick back while starting. I have found that the battery or starter are usually causing those type problems. You can also wire the ignition to be turned on while spinning the motor if you want to run timing on the higher numbers.. Try it,,if you don't like it, you can always put it back the way it was..


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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183087
02/20/12 11:23 PM
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mines locked. 440sb. 34 total. starts easily, idles great & no detonation.

Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183088
02/20/12 11:56 PM
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Lock it!!. You will like the results.



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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: MagnumExpress] #1183089
02/21/12 01:57 AM
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mine locked out, one less thing to worry bout, no problems starting 32* 408 SB

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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: Stroker Scamp] #1183090
02/21/12 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the reply's guys looks like I will be locking it out.Can not wait to try my new motor out. Test and Tune is March 17 ,maybe it will make it down the track. Thanks ...........

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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183091
02/22/12 01:33 AM
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When is locked better?
When the previous setting was wrong.


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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: polyspheric] #1183092
03/02/12 08:03 PM
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North, Alabama
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Thank you guys for the advice! I locked out the advance on my MSD distributor and it fires up instantly and idles great now. I even had to turn my idle screw down about 3/4 turn. It seems to have alot better throttle response. THANKS...Glenn

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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183093
03/02/12 10:02 PM
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I did it did not like it so I run the mopar or mister gasket light mopar springs in it for more idle advance than the lightest MSD springs give.

Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183094
03/04/12 12:25 PM
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How do you lock it out? We have an MSD 8534 distibutor.

Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: chris3] #1183095
03/04/12 01:37 PM
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go to msd website, click dist, type in ur dizzy #, read their instructions. seeya.

Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183096
03/04/12 01:53 PM
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Locked out here bet. 32-35 degrees accordingly..........no retard, starts fine.


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Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: Thumperdart] #1183097
03/04/12 04:45 PM
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My timing is around 34* and so far I have not had to use my start retard.It has been starting fine also with 12.2 comp. Thanks....

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1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: D-50] #1183098
03/05/12 03:48 AM
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wine country
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i locked mine at 34, hard to start- 540 10-1 compression, big new battery and new mini starter.
when i spun a rod bearing and disassembled i had massive cap walk (for a 50 mile engine). surprised me, maybe detonation???
maybe other issues...

Re: Locking out the advance ? [Re: 8urvette] #1183099
03/05/12 10:53 AM
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I had my 14-1 416 motor locked at 35deg and had 0 problems with starting or anything else.


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best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4






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