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'71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? #1169172
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Ola's e-body 'vert registry lists 6 318 4-speed Barracudas, including one with a shaker.

Is it possible to have such an engine/trans combo in 1971? I just flat out don't believe the 318 shaker car.


BH27G1B 189799 A20 TU 4 sp U x722x GY3 H6XW V3W B51,C16,C55,G36,P37,R11

BH27G1B 388298 5xx 4 sp ? x722x EV2 H6X9 V3X

BH27G1B 390008 513 SA 4 sp U x722x GB5 H6XW V3W A01,A36,B51,C16,C55,G37,H51,J45,J54,M21,P31,P37,R21,26

BH27G1B 426254 611 FR 4 sp U x722x GY3 H6X9 V3X C55,Rxx

BH27G1B 4 sp ? x722x GY3 H6X9 V3X V6X A01,A22,G36,J25,J45,J81,L34,M25,M31,M88,N41,N42,N96,Rxx


Then there's also 3 Challenger 318s w/4-speeds:

JH27G1B 154809 924 TH 4 sp ? x2165x FC7 H6XW V3W V5W C16,C55,G36,H51,M31,P37,Rxx,26

JH27G1B 156875 9xx 25 or 26 4 sp U x1793x FE5 H6X9 V3X A62,G33,N85,P37

JH27G1B 238789 C09 TU 4 sp U x1793x TX9 H6X9 V3X V5X A46,C55,G15,G31,G33,L31,M31,M42,M44,P37,R11

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #1169173
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Yes, 1971 & 318 & 4-spd is possible in a Barracuda convertible - the '71 production numbers are a bit messed up, but in '70 ~58 were built (US spec.). The lack of a VIN# on the one with the N96 would lead me to believe that those are visual clues to ID it if further info became available.

Here's a '70 Barracuda convertible factory pink, 318, 4-spd, A/C, & AM/FM.

pic "stolen" from pantherpink.com

7045670-fm3152_11.jpg (224 downloads)
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I was specifically referring to 1971s.

According to:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mopared/productionchange.htm

"8/20/70: Code D21, 4-speed transmission, is not available with 198, 225, 318 or 383-2v engines. "

I guess there could have been a few 1971 four-speed 318s squeek through before that date.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #1169175
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Seen my share of E body 318 4 spds over the decades, parted a few, including a vert,....but a "SHAKER" 318?,...dealer install possible, factory? ....not buying that

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1169176
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a shaker on a 318 would have to be a one off base plate to fit a 2 barrel. and if they would have had a 318 4 bbl (not optional), more than likely it was dealer installed.


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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: mopars_1] #1169177
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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: GuruRanger] #1169178
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How does it ( N96 ) get on the fender tag if it was dealer installed???

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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: fireeng] #1169179
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How does it ( N96 ) get on the fender tag if it was dealer installed???




show me a factory shaker 2 barrel base plate and Ill believe the car is real


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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 6bblgt] #1169180
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Quote:

The lack of a VIN# on the one with the N96 would lead me to believe that those are visual clues to ID it if further info became available.



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Ya, should ask Ola how that car got in his registry.

Note the V6X on there too.

Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #1169182
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Ya, should ask Ola how that car got in his registry.

Note the V6X on there too.




As well as hood pins, road lamps, rear spoiler, & dual exhaust w/ bright tips.


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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1169183
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Ya, should ask Ola how that car got in his registry.

Note the V6X on there too.




As well as hood pins, road lamps, rear spoiler, & dual exhaust w/ bright tips.


Tim



That is ...... or would of been one nicely dressed 318.

Can anyone tell me if the 318 rallye challengers or cudas in 73 and 74 came with duel exhaust and/or four barrels?


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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: fireeng] #1169184
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NO factory dual exhaust or 4bbl on 318 powered e-bodies.

IIRC, LA318 didn't get a 4bbl until 1978.

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I believe my 71 318 was built sept 22, 1970. My vin is jh23g1b150402, does this mean I have the 402nd challenger built at hamtramck?


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Re: '71 318-four speeds in an e-body possible? [Re: 2fast4yourBrain] #1169186
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"8/20/70: Code D21, 4-speed transmission, is not available with 198, 225, 318 or 383-2v engines. "

I guess there could have been a few 1971 four-speed 318s squeek through before that date.




All of the E44/D21's I have are after that date. I think that source may be inaccurate.


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I believe my 71 318 was built sept 22, 1970. My vin is jh23g1b150402, does this mean I have the 402nd challenger built at hamtramck?




No...it means your car had the 50,402nd VIN assigned to all cars built at the plant. With only a couple of exceptions, VINs were not assigned sequentially by makes and/or models.


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Thanks for the explanation. Sorry for the hijack.


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"Can anyone tell me if the 318 rallye challengers or cudas in 73 and 74 came with duel exhaust and/or four barrels?
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This is a great question as my car is a true 318 'Cuda (BS23G4B14xxxx) but the trunk pan has the single tip hanger and no evidence of a second pipe. Kinda hard to imagine a real 'Cuda with a non 'Cuda valence panel.

BTW, mine was a yellow/blk top 318/904, A/C, rear swaybar, console, non-ralley car. Now it's a hulk of metal & parts waiting patiently in the corner.

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The standard engine for the Cuda was a 318. No four barrel or dual exhaust were ever offered on a 318 E-body.

I guess I don't know what you mean by non-rallye when talking about a Cuda? Do you mean non-rallye dash? The Rallye dash was standard in a Rallye Challenger but optional in the Cuda.

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Um, the standard enging for a 'Cuda was NOT a 318 It was a 383 318 IS standard on the Barracuda

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