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Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors #1168168
01/29/12 11:45 PM
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The goal was to add a full cage to the car, and this is the thread where I will be talking about it. The cage is being installed by MW Racecraft, out of Coon Rapids, MN. http://www.mwracecraft.com/ The cage is a 10 point if I don't end up installing the front bars, or a 12 if I do install the front bars. The goal here is to be able to use the entire interior. Rear seat, side panels, door panels, even the factory headliner AND dome light. Big order? I would say so. Granted the carpet will have to be custom, and I have to modify the dash some for the A pillar bars, being as I must be able to remove the dash once the cage is in place. Keep in tune for more pictures as the build progresses. Here are some pics.

the subframe connectors


so far the back of the cage has been mocked up and tack welded in place.










Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: moparguy] #1168169
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looking good whats the plan for the car..set up

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: earthmover] #1168170
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Do the base plates not need to be at least 6"x6"?
Yes it does look good.

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: ] #1168171
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Do the base plates not need to be at least 6"x6"?
Yes it does look good.




Yes they need to be 6x6, and 1/4" thick, unless they are welded to the frame on a full frame car.

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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: ] #1168172
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The rear bars actually go thru the
frame. They are welded to the frame
in 2 places. The bar runs thru the
top plate also. The plate is 3x6.
On the bottom of the frame is the
design with at 2x6 plate. Contacted
NHRA Tech about is design, and they
responded ok.

Last edited by MW Racecraft; 01/30/12 09:57 AM.
Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: JERICOGTX] #1168173
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As per the rule book, the plates are
required to 1/8 thick.

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: MW Racecraft] #1168174
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As per the rule book, the plates are
required to 1/8 thick.


and6X6"

7044183-RRdownbars.jpg (271 downloads)

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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: Crizila] #1168175
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Good luck with it: i'll be watching this thread

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: moparguy] #1168176
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Thanks for the pics. Always interesting to see how others do it. I just finished putting a 10 point cage in a late B body - which nobody makes a kit for. Ended up losing most my interior - and dash. No big deal as I was looking to lose as much weight as possible anyway. Bought an E body kit from Jegs which was relatively close ( main hoop anyway ) and built it as close to their drawings as possible. Front down bars sit on a 6X6 plate, but I had to build an inclosed box for the plate to sit on, as the floor was not flat in that area. This is a unibody car so no frame in this area. Didn't have a problem with NHRA tech as I raced this weekend. I'm sure there are a lot of variables that they see - and have to decide on.

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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: Crizila] #1168177
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We are going to use 2x3 tubing up front.
Going to connect front subframe to sill
plate with 2x3 tubing and gussets. Drop A pillar bar down on the tubing.
Will post pictures when we get up front. Finishing back now.

Last edited by MW Racecraft; 01/30/12 11:35 PM.
Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: MW Racecraft] #1168178
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We are going to use 2x3 tubing up front.
Going to connect front subframe to sill
plate with 2x3 tubing and gussets. Drop A pillar bar down on the tubing.
Will post pictures when we get up front. Finishing back now.


Should be bullet proof!


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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: Crizila] #1168179
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Looking sweet. The rear portion is similar to how we are doing my Challenger right now.


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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: 6PKRTSE] #1168180
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Some update pics!
He has the rear all set up and welded in place. Mike also welded a few nuts into the rear bars for a good ground, and has setup the battery disconnect since the battery is going out back. the rear is also setup for a fuel cell that I'll be putting in sometime in the relatively near future. I'm incredibly pleased with how this has turned out so far. Now onto the front of the cage! :2thumbs:

apparently I am still technologically retarded.
lets try this again.
[image] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/403/trunkarea.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/trunkarea3.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/trunkarea2.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/trunkarea1.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/dbar1.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/dbars.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/interiorupfront.jpg/[/image]
[image]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/interiorseatbar.jpg/[/image]

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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: moparguy] #1168181
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none of those chicken scratches work...

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: smokinwoody] #1168182
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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: moparguy] #1168183
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looks real stealth...

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: W9 Dart] #1168184
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now thatis real sweet looking. i like that alot


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Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: SB Dakota] #1168185
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Nice craftsmanship is that cm/ms?

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: racerx] #1168186
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Cage is mild steel.

Re: Winter upgrade, Roll cage and subframe connectors [Re: racerx] #1168187
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ya, its mild steel. The goal is to make it minimally visible from outside the car as well. so far Mike has done an awesome job with that. Thanks for the kind words fellas.

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