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#1156378 - 01/15/12 12:11 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: jcc]
TC@HP2 Offline
master

Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 4759
Loc: Pikes Peak Country
Entry/Update Date Jan 15, 2012

Model: Satellite

Year: 1967

Weight: 3250, w driver 1/4 tank of gas, all fluids

Application: Occasionaly drove it on the road, but it also drag raced. Never tried dodging cones with it.

Engine Package briefly: 360, balanced, blueprinted, high swirl heads, too much cam.

Estimate HP: 400 FW HP at sea level. At my altitude, much much less.

Trans: 727 auto

Speed: Never top ended it. It would run the quarter @ 115

Gears:stock 727

RE Ratio: 4:89, 4:56, 3:23

RE Type: spool for the 4 series, Sure grip for the 3s.



Front Tire Size Brand Model: 255/50x16 Goodyear Gatorbacks

Front Rim width: 8"

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 255/50x16 Goodyear Gatorbacks

Rear Rim Width: 8"



Aftermarket Front End brand: stock layout

Coil Rate: .96 t-bar, aprox 160#

Front Shocks: Mopar Oval track (carrera)

Front Sway bar Dia: 1.125"


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: stock layout, XHD style, 160#

Shocks: Mopar Oval track (carrera)

Rear Sway bar Dia: none

Front Brakes: OEM style

Rotor Dia Width: 11.75"

Caliper-Pistons: OEM iron single pot

Cooling Ducts: none

Rear Brakes : OEM style

Drum Size Dia Width: 10x3 drums

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width :

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake:

Dual Circuit Dia MC: 1 1/32, 70/30 split


Chassis: OEM

Subframe Connectors: 1x2 bolt in style that were welded

Torque Boxes: no

Roll bar, Roll Cage: no

Aftermarket stiffeners:

Comments: Firm Feel box with fast ratio arms.


1. Best above improvement: Sway bars, sub frame connectors

2. Least effective above improvement: considering the changes from original, nothing disappointed.

3. Next improvement: None, I sold the car years ago.

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): I'd give it a 7. I built this in the early 90s. It felt comparable to a Porsche 924 or a mid 80s Vette. Unfortunatly there was not much focus on handling cars back then, so I never bothered to try an open track day or autocross. It was only registered for a short time, so my street experience with it was limited. I ended up running it on the drag strip more than anything else and that gave me a very unique persective of handling set ups vs drag set ups and some of the actual give and take of the differences and their impact

Here is is with the drag tires on it at Bandimere.

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#1156379 - 01/15/12 12:29 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: TC@HP2]
TC@HP2 Offline
master

Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 4759
Loc: Pikes Peak Country
Entry/Update Date: Jan 15, 2012

Model: Satellite

Year: 1971

Weight: Wet w/driver 3500, with driver, full fuel load

Application: race

Engine Package briefly: 318

Estimate HP: Geez, like maybe 200, sea level

Trans: 727 auto

Speed: never fast enough

Gears:Stock 727

RE Ratio: 3:55

RE Type: Sure Grip



Front Tire Size Brand Model: Goodyear, 26x12 race slick

Front Rim width: 15x10

Rear tire Size Brand Model: Goodyear 26x12 race slick

Rear Rim Width: 15x10



Aftermarket Front End brand: OEM

Coil Rate: very few notes form this time, I'd guess .92" 130#

Front Shocks: Monroe Gas

Front Sway bar Dia: 1"


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: stock leafs, 120#

Shocks: Monroe gas

Rear Sway bar Dia: na

Front Brakes: stock discs 10.75"

Rotor Dia Width: 10.75"

Caliper-Pistons: OEM iron single pot

Cooling Ducts: yes

Rear Brakes : stock drum

Drum Size Dia Width: 11x3

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width :

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake:

Dual Circuit Dia MC: stock


Chassis: OEM

Subframe Connectors: yes, 3x3 fabbed

Torque Boxes: no

Roll bar, Roll Cage: bolt in four post cage

Aftermarket stiffeners:

Comments: Boy was I young and naive. I never knew you got paid to drive race cars until one day when I pulled in the gate and they handed me a check from the previous weekend. After that I was hooked.



1. Best above improvement: Racing seat. Nothign better to hold you in place.

2. Least effective above improvement The big stinking tires. Too much rubber for the application.

3.Next improvement

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): I'd give it a 5. I wasn't dead last but tended to be towards the rear of the pack.

Built in the early 80s, it was my first "handling" experience. Granted, it predominately turned left, but it was my first forray in to a car that didn't just go in a straight line. I beat the tar out of it and by the end of the year, decided to throw it away and build a new one, it was that rough. In hind sight, it wasn't as bad as others I've seen, but in 1983 you could buy these cars for a few hundred bucks so why put out the effort to fix it.


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#1156380 - 01/15/12 12:38 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: TC@HP2]
TC@HP2 Offline
master

Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 4759
Loc: Pikes Peak Country
Entry/Update Date: Jan 15, 2012

Model: Satellite

Year: 1972

Weight: Wet w/driver and fuel 3500#

Application: Race

Engine Package briefly: 400

Estimate HP: maybe 300

Trans: 727 auto

Speed: dunno

Gears:

RE Ratio: 3:55

RE Type: Sure Grip



Front Tire Size Brand Model: 28x8, recap race tires

Front Rim width: 15x8 wagon wheels

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 28x8, recap race tires

Rear Rim Width : 15x8 wagon wheels



Aftermarket Front End brand: nope, it was stock

Coil Rate: 1" torsion bars, 175#

Front Shocks: Monroe gas

Front Sway bar Dia: 1"


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: OEM 120#

Shocks: Monroe gas

Rear Sway bar Dia: na

Front Brakes: disc

Rotor Dia Width: 11.75

Caliper-Pistons: OEM

Cooling Ducts: yes

Rear Brakes : OEM

Drum Size Dia Width: 11x3

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width :

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake:

Dual Circuit Dia MC: stock


Chassis: OEM

Subframe Connectors: Yes, 3x3 custom

Torque Boxes: no

Roll bar, Roll Cage: bolt in four post cage

Aftermarket stiffeners:

Comments: Discovered tall sprindles were faster.



1. Best above improvement: gas shocks. Monroe just released these and compared to the old oil shocks, they were great!

2. Least effective above improvement Needed more roll resistance.

3. Next improvement Didn't get to tinker much after this year because of changes in my personal life. Parted the car out at season's end

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): I'd go 7 on this one.

This is a different car than the previous one. Built a year later, I started to get into the meat of the subject and started experimenting with different parts. Ran much faster, handled much better, and actually began to win races. However, after the local track closed, I sold off the good parts, scraped the rest, and quit racing for a few years. When I returned to an oval in the early 90s, I defected to GM and Ford products because mopar prices were stupid high for a car that was going to get shredded on a regular basis. However, that gave me some insight to pro/cons of the moapr set up vs the popular GM and Ford set ups seen around today.

Picture taken in front of the local dragstrip tower which adjoined the oval track.


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#1156381 - 01/15/12 01:04 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: TC@HP2]
TC@HP2 Offline
master

Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 4759
Loc: Pikes Peak Country
Entry/Update Date: Jan 15, 2012

Model: Challenger

Year: 1974

Weight: 3650 or so, its been a while since I scaled it. More than I'd like it to have, in any case.

Application: Driver, Drag, Autocross, Track

Engine Package briefly: 360, with as much compression as I can get away with

Estimate HP: 400-425 FW, sea level rating

Trans: 833 4 spd

Speed: Dunno yet

Gears: stock four speed

RE Ratio: 3:55

RE Type: Sure Grip



Front Tire Size Brand Model: M/T SR 26x10x15

Front Rim width: 15x8

Rear tire Size Brand Model: M/T SR 26x12x15

Rear Rim Width: 15x10



Aftermarket Front End brand: OEM

Coil Rate: 1.22 t-bars, 400# rate

Front Shocks: Varishock aluminum body twin tube single adjustable

Front Sway bar Dia: 1.125


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: Mopar zero arch oval track, 120# moved in 1" per side with a 67 B body rear housing

Shocks: Varishock aluminum body twin tube single adjustable

Rear Sway bar Dia: 1" axle hung version

Front Brakes: disc

Rotor Dia Width: 11.75"x1"

Caliper-Pistons: Currently single pot stock. I've got the brackets for Wilwoods, just need to swap em over.

Cooling Ducts: Yes, front and rear

Rear Brakes : finned drum

Drum Size Dia Width: 10x2.5

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width :

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake: stock

Dual Circuit Dia MC: 1 1/32 70/30 split, manual


Chassis: mostly stock

Subframe Connectors: Yes, home built, 2x3 and 2x2 tapered to run under the floor board, Xed from corner to corner. Still under construction. Exhaust pass throughs are a pain to figure out.

Torque Boxes: Yes

Roll bar, Roll Cage: no

Aftermarket stiffeners: Home fabbed versions of the XV front end stiffening system being fabbed in.

Comments: Firm Feel box, fast ratio arms, bump steer spacers being used. Working on adapting some chevy tubular upper A arms to give me more caster/camber/ackerman/anti-dive options.



1. Best above improvement:

2. Least effective above improvement

3. Next improvement

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo):

Still under construction with zero road time. Here it is in its last on road appearance. Its much uglier now.


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#1156382 - 01/15/12 10:54 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: jcc]
Frankenduster Offline
Moparts proctologist

Registered: 02/15/10
Posts: 14885
Loc: Granite Bay CA
My car:
1970 Charger R/T clone
3850 lbs plus driver
Street/Show/Spirited driving
440 based 493 stroker, Edelbrock heads, MP cam, TTI headers, Demon 850 carb. HP unknown
727 with 3000 stall converter, soon to have Gear Vendors Overdrive unit
8 3/4" axle, narrowed 1 1/2" 4.10 power Lok Sure Grip
Wheels and tires: Intro wheels, 18x9 with 4 3/4 BS, Nitto 555 275-40-18 Front, 18x10 with 4 3/4" BS, 295-45-18 Rear.
Rebuilt front suspension, Poly bushings except LCA (OEM rubber replacements) Stock K member. Addco 1 1/8" front sway bar. 1" Torsion bars. KYB Gas-a-just shocks. Boxed LCAs. Fast Ratio Idler and Pitman arms. 12" Cordoba disc brakes with slider calipers. Semi Metallic pads.
Stock floorpans without frame connectors or torque boxes.
MP HD leaf springs with HD shackles, poly bushings. Addco 7/8" sway bar. KYB gas-a-just shocks. Dr Diff disc kit using 10.7" rotors and Mustang calipers. MP sealed, non adjustable axle bearings.

When I bought the car, the running gear, suspension and steering were all in totally stock condition. After I painted it, I did nearly all of the upgrades at the same time. The rear discs look great but I didn't notice much of a braking improvement over the 10" drums. Maybe I would have if I hammered the car more! The fast ratio arms were a huge difference. It went from 3 1/2 turns to just over 2 1/2 lock to lock. Effort increased. The steering simply reacted faster.


Edited by Frankenduster (02/26/12 02:27 AM)

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#1156383 - 01/18/12 07:19 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: autoxcuda]
70Cuda383 Offline


Registered: 10/07/03
Posts: 21335
Loc: Marysville, O-H-I-O
Quote:

Quote:


RE Type: Eaton tru-trac





Can/Have you experianced any noticable differences between a Tru-Trac (Torsen type) diff than a Clutch or Cone type?




yes. i LOVE the tru--trac diffs. I had one in my big block truck. it's now in a buddy's Dakota.

When there is no load on the tires, they act like an open diff. infact, if you jack the rear up in the air, the wheels will rotate oposite of each other! you can jack up just one wheel, leaving the other on the ground, and the wheel in the air will turn.

when both tires have traction it locks them up tight and evenly.

what does this mean while driving?

one wheel in the mud on the side of the road, and one on the pavement? it's going to act like an open and might leave you stuck.

wet roads, while going around a corner, if your tires are slippery, the unit acts like an open, and prevents you from getting "tail happy" when you don't want to.

dry pavement, it will lock up and send power to each wheel evenly.

honestly it's the best of both worlds.

and if you find yourself where you WANT to "lock it up" when it won't, like if you're one wheel off the road stuck in mud or something, then drag the brakes with your left foot, it creates enough torque resistance to lock up the diff, and get you un-stuck.
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#1156384 - 01/19/12 06:54 AM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jcc]
540challenger Offline
master

Registered: 04/22/07
Posts: 2770
Loc: NY usa
71 Challenger

Engine: 408 with slightly work Magnum heads

Trans: 727 witha 9 1/2 3000 stall

Front Suspension: Alterkation
Rear Suspension: Mopar SS springs

Rear: 8 3/4 axle nodular iron case,3.55 gears, Tru trac diff, Yukon axles

Misc:
Baffled Stainless steal gas tank
XV sub-frame and rad support
T/A hood
Alum Rad.
Future upgrades

2012 plans

Spring

Moser Fab 8 3/4 B-body version with Doc. diff spring relocation kit and Disc brakes.

17" Rims

2012-13 6.4L hemi swap

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#1156385 - 01/26/12 07:00 PM 69 Valiant [Re: jcc]
lakeeffect Offline
member

Registered: 01/23/10
Posts: 8
Loc: Erie PA
January 26 2012

Plymouth Valiant

1969

1/2 tank, stockish/318/8-3/4 3280

Application: FUN, Auto-x, Track days.

Engine: Blew the 318.--340,LD340,ST-21 Racer Brown Cam in assembly.

Estimate HP: I am hoping for 380-400

Trans: Liberty's Gear TKO-600rr NO kit.

Speeds:5


RE Ratio:3.91

RE Type: Sure Grip Clutch



Tire Size Brand Model: Kumho Ecsta 225-60-15

Rim Brand Model: BASSETT-Inertia Advantage

Rim Width:8

TB Dia: 1.00

Shocks: Hotchkis/Bilstien

Front Sway bar : Hellwig

Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: Weird AFCO Circle track Springs but not off set for Left only. Had to buy 2 sets of poly bushings to work. one SS and one Reg

Rear Sway bar: HELLWIG

Front Brakes: AR Engineering Viper/11.75/dimpled/slotted A++

Caliper-Pistons: 4

Cooling Ducts: Soon

Rear Brakes: DOC DIFF 11.75/dimpled/slotted A++

Caliper- Pistons : 1

Parking Brake:Stock system but used a Hurst T handle for the pull Lever

Dual Circuit Dia MC: Doc Diff 15/16 Mopar Alum

Chassis:Stockish? Lots of Gussets, Seem Stitching.

Subframe Connectors:Yep Though Floor No bolt on crap

Aftermarket stiffeners: BADDART on FABO has some real cool products I want to purchase.

[image]http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/vbpgimage.php?do=full&p=21760&d=1319058904[/image]


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#1156386 - 01/27/12 05:33 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jcc]
AlexP Offline


Registered: 09/08/03
Posts: 10557
Loc: Houston, Tx
Entry/Update Date: 1/27/2012

Model: Roadrunner

Year: 1968

Weight: Dry, Wet w/driver 3600lb Est.

Application: Show, Daily Driver, Drag, Autocross, Track, Race. Everything except for show

Engine Package briefly: 440, then a 383 and now a 6.1 based Hemi (Building currently)

Estimate HP: FW or RWHP

Trans: 23-Spline 833

Gears: 4

RE Ratio: 3.54

RE Type: SG Clutch type


Front Tire Size Brand Model: Yokohama Avid S/T 255/60/15

Front Rim width: 7"

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 275/60/15

Rear Rim Width: 7"


TB Dia: 1.22


Front Shocks: Koni Red

Front Sway bar Dia: 7/8" Factory


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: Factory with 2" drop Blocks.

Shocks: Koni Red

Rear Sway bar Dia: N/A

Front Brakes: Factory Police with Firm Feel Carbon Metallic Pads

Rotor Dia Width: 11.75" Raybestos

Caliper-Pistons: Pin single pistons

Cooling Ducts: n/a

Rear Brakes: HP Drums stock shoes

Drum Size Dia Width: 11x3"


Parking Brake: Factory

Dual Circuit Dia MC: MP 15/16 E-berg Alum with AR Adapter Plate


Chassis: Firm Feel Stage 4 super duper top secret box, Firm Feel Greasable LCA pins, Poly LCA bushings, CAP UCA's. Poly Strut Rod bushings, AR LCA Braces, MP Steering Coupler Rebuild Kit, AR Tow Eyes

Subframe Connectors: MP Bolt in (welded)

Torque Boxes: n/a

Roll bar, Roll Cage: n/a

Aftermarket stiffeners:

Comments: Very happy with the over all combo. A lot has come to market since 08 though.



1. Best above improvement: Firm Feel Box

2. Least effective above improvement: WHeels and tires. The sizing is all wrong. Tires are betty than what I'm used to though.

3. Next improvement: Hotchkis Sway Bars and new rear leaf springs

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): 6. would be an 8 if I had 17" wheels and tires.


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#1156387 - 01/31/12 07:41 AM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: Frankenduster]
abodyjoe Offline
I Live Here

Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 10734
Loc: Berlin, N.J.
Model: dart

Year: 1971

Weight: Dry, Wet w/driver never weighed it

Application: Show, Daily Driver, Drag, Autocross, Track, Race family cruiser

Engine Package briefly: 60,000 mile stock 1974 360

Estimate HP: FW or RWHP not much



Trans: 904

Speeds:3



RE Ratio: open 2,94



Front Tire Size Brand Model: 225-50-17 nitto

Front Rim width: 17x8 5.72 backspace


Rear tire Size Brand Model: 275/50-17 nitto

Rear Rim Width: 17x8 5.72 backspace



Aftermarket Front End brand: RMS Alter-K-Tion

Coil Rate: 500

Front Shocks: QA1

Front Sway bar Dia: forget


Rear Suspension : RMS Street Lynx

Shocks: QA1

Coil Rate: Variable Rate 175/350



Front Brakes: wilwood

Rotor Dia Width: 11"

Caliper-Pistons: 4



Rear Brakes: 11"x2" drum

Parking Brake: stock

Dual Circuit Dia MC: wilwood



Subframe Connectors: home made welded in



Best above improvement: the power rack and frame connectors


Next improvement OD trans or efi

Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): better then i can drive it.





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#1156388 - 02/02/12 01:51 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jcc]
jcc Offline
I Live Here

Registered: 12/21/03
Posts: 16799
Loc: Trumussia
Entry/Update Date: 2/1/12

Model: Polara 500 B body dart

Year: 1962

Weight: 3400 Dry

Application: Daily Driver

Engine Package briefly: 273, Mild Cam, Alum Hi Rise, 650 Avenger, MSD Digital All in 1 Dist, TTI's, Valley pan, Windage tray

Estimate HP: 220 FW

Trans: Passon Alum Not OD

Speeds: 4

Gears:

RE Ratio: 3.23

RE Type: Sure Grip Mopar Alum



Front Tire Size Brand Model: 245/60/14 BFG

Front Rim width: 8

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 245/60/14 BFG

Rear Rim Width: 8



Aftermarket Front End brand:

TB Dia: 1.02

Coil Rate:

Front Shocks: QA1 1 way Adj

Front Sway bar Dia:


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: 225/lb Fiberglass

Shocks: QA1 1 Way Adj Inverted

Rear Sway bar Dia:

Front Brakes: Wilwood

Rotor Dia Width:10.5"x.81"

Caliper-Pistons: 4

Cooling Ducts: Soon

Rear Brakes: drums Tapered axle Ugh

Drum Size Dia Width: 10x2

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width:

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake: OEM

Dual Circuit Dia MC: Dual Mopar Alum


Chassis:

Subframe Connectors: 2x2x.083 welded

Torque Boxes:

Roll bar, Roll Cage:

Aftermarket stiffeners: Upper Tower bracing coming

Comments:

Just wanted a fun car to drive, previous owner in 2nd "gas crisis" 1980? yanked 361 V8/727, and installed the 273/4 speed, I just took it a step further and like the results so far



1. Best above improvement: "1.02" TB and Firm Feel Box #2, (#3 would be next time)

2. Least effective above improvement; Subframes

3. Next improvement, Discrete front end aero tricks, rear discs, front discs to 1.25" width

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): For what it is, 8.2


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#1156389 - 02/11/12 01:38 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jcc]
dart4forte Online   boogie
I Live Here

Registered: 01/31/03
Posts: 13851
Loc: Mesa, Arizona
Entry/Update Date:

Model: Road Runner

Year: 1971

Weight: Dry, Wet w/driver TBD

Application: Show, Driver,

Engine Package briefly: .030 stroked 400 451 ci, Demon Six Shooter

Estimate HP: 375

Trans: 833

Speeds:

Gears: Dana 60


RE Ratio: 3.55


RE Type: Sure Grip,

Front Tire Size Brand Model: 245/60/15

Front Rim width: 15x7

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 275/60/15

Rear Rim Width: 15X8.5


Aftermarket Front End brand: Firm Feel - sway bars, tubular Upper control Arm, boxed lower contril arm, Adjustable strut rods

TB Dia: Stock Hemi

Coil Rate:

Front Shocks: Bilstien

Front Sway bar Dia: Firm Feel 1.75


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: MP HD

Shocks: Bilstien

Rear Sway bar Dia: Firm Feel 3/4

Front Brakes: Stock Disk

Rotor Dia Width: stock

Caliper-Pistons: Stock

Cooling Ducts: None

Rear Brakes: Stock Drum 11"

Drum Size Dia Width: Stock

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width:

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake: Yes

Dual Circuit Dia MC:


Chassis:

Subframe Connectors: Yes

Torque Boxes: No

Roll bar, Roll Cage: No

Aftermarket stiffeners: Homemade

Comments: Tubular Upper A Arm, Boxed Lower Contol; Arm



1. Best above improvement: Firm Feel suspension system

2. Least effective above: improvement Stock Brakes

3. Next improvement: Firm Feel Adjustable Idler Arm, Firm Feel Pitman Arm support bearing, Brake upgrade to aftermarket front and rear disks

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#1156390 - 05/04/12 07:12 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jcc]
brads70 Offline
super stock

Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 810
Loc: Ontario,Canada
Entry/Update Date: May 2012

Model: Dodge Challenger

Year: 1970

Weight: 3857 with me in it ( last weighed with cast iron heads and steel leaf springs)

Application: Show, Daily Driver,
Engine Package briefly: 451" stroker, Mopar aluminum stage 6 heads, roller hyd cam

Estimate HP: 540 at the engine

Trans: 4L65E

Speeds:

Gears: 4 speed auto

RE Ratio:3:54

RE Type: Eaton true trac



Front Tire Size Brand Model: Firestone Indy 500's 235/60/15

Front Rim width: 7"

Rear tire Size Brand Model: Firestone Indy 500's 255/60/15

Rear Rim Width: 8"



Aftermarket Front End brand:

TB Dia: 1"

Coil Rate:

Front Shocks: Bilstein

Front Sway bar Dia: Hotchkis 1 1/4" tubular


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: Hyperco composite 175lb rate

Shocks: Bilstein

Rear Sway bar Dia: Hotchkis tubular 13/16"

Front Brakes: Viper 1st gen ( brembo)

Rotor Dia Width: 1 1/4 1973 C-Body

Caliper-Pistons:

Cooling Ducts:

Rear Brakes: Dr Diff 10.4 disc kit?

Drum Size Dia Width:

Rotor Dia:

Rotor width:

Caliper- Pistons :

Parking Brake:

Dual Circuit Dia MC:


Chassis:

Subframe Connectors: yes

Torque Boxes: yes

Roll bar, Roll Cage: no

Aftermarket stiffeners:

Comments: 1973 C-Body spindles and rotors, A-Body LCA's, Hotchkis upper control arms. Howe quick bump kit for dialing in the bump steer, firm feel stage 3 power steering box, firm feel fast ratio arms. B-Body center link, Full rewelded k-frame with gusseted steering box mounts





1. Best above improvement: Getting rid of most of the bumpsteer

2. Least effective above improvement

3. Next improvement 10" rear rims and 295/50/15 tires, bigger torsion bars

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo):7


Edited by brads70 (05/04/12 07:49 PM)

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#1156391 - 09/09/12 05:23 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jcc]
jvike Offline
member

Registered: 10/03/05
Posts: 44
Loc: Mosjøen, Norway
Entry Date: 09.09.12

Model: Plymouth Barracuda

Year: 1970

Weight: 3637 lbs 3/4 fuel w/driver

Application: Mostly street, and some trackdays @ roadrace track

Engine Package briefly: 1972 340, Low comp, small valves. RPM-AirGap, Holley 650DP

Estimate HP: 214 RWHP on Dynolicious app

Trans: TCI Streetfighter 727 Torqueflight

Speeds: 3 speed

Gears: Standard 727

RE Ratio: 3.23:1

RE Type: Sure Grip.



Front Tire Size Brand Model: 275/35-18 Toyo Proxis R888

Front Rim width: 9.5"

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 335/30-18 Toyo Proxis R888 (Stock wheelwells!)

Rear Rim Width: 12"



Aftermarket Front End brand: XV Motorsports Level II

Coil Rate: 350 lb/in

Front Shocks: XV Motorsports Monotube

Front Sway bar Dia: 1-1/4"


Rear Suspension: XV Motorsports Level II 3-Link

Shocks: XV Motorsports Monotube

Rear Sway bar Dia: 1"

Front Brakes: XV Motorsports/Stop Tech

Rotor Dia Width: 14", 1.25"

Caliper-Pistons: 6 Piston

Rear Brakes: XV Motorsports/Stop Tech

Rotor Dia: 13"

Rotor width: 1.25"

Caliper- Pistons : 2 Piston

Parking Brake: Wilwood



Chassis: Unibody

Subframe Connectors: XV Motorsports

Torque Boxes: No

Roll bar, Roll Cage: No

Aftermarket stiffeners: XV Motorports Chassis stiffening kit

Comments: Hydraboost



1. Best above improvement: Stiffening kit, the fundation for any suspension

2. Least effective above improvement Parking brake

3. Next improvement More power, Manuel trans, bether seats

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): 9, tuning and proper seats will get it there





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#1156392 - 09/12/12 07:31 AM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jvike]
Uhcoog1 Offline
super stock

Registered: 05/12/05
Posts: 718
Loc: Houston Tx
I love your ride, jvike!!! That's wicked!
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#1156393 - 09/12/12 09:34 AM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: jvike]
Mopar Mitch Offline
super stock

Registered: 01/17/10
Posts: 988
Loc: NW Chicago suburban area
Jvike -- You've got got a really coolll Cuda. Where do you run it?
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#1156394 - 09/12/12 01:27 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: Mopar Mitch]
72Swinger Offline
master

Registered: 02/23/11
Posts: 4288
Loc: Nebraska
He is the Norwegian Cuda guy, with a really righteous Cuda!
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#1156395 - 09/26/12 04:34 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Modification Register? [Re: 72Swinger]
jvike Offline
member

Registered: 10/03/05
Posts: 44
Loc: Mosjøen, Norway
Thanks guys! Yeah I live in the northern part of Norway, the local track is called Arctic Circle Raceway, so the name tells the location. Here are some action pictures for ya!

At speed


Pitlane exit.

Car handles beautifully, now on to the next evolution of the car, more power and three pedals.

Joakim
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#1156396 - 12/29/12 01:28 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: jcc]
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I got lucky at Woodward!

Registered: 12/12/10
Posts: 12162
Loc: Covina, Ca
I figure I'll give this a go for now since I plan on upgrading my suspension little by little over the next year or so. It will help me record my changes.

Entry/Update Date: 12/29/12

Model: Dodge Dart

Year: 1968

Weight: ~2800lbs Dry, ~3050lbs Wet w/driver

Application: Driver

Engine Package briefly: Stock 273.

Estimate HP: 150 RWHP

Trans: Stock 904

Speed: I've gotten it to 100 mph before.

Gears: stock gears

RE Ratio: 2.94

RE Type: Open 7-1/4



Front Tire Size Brand Model: 205/75/14 Enduro 75

Front Rim width: 5"

Rear tire Size Brand Model: 205/75/14 Firestone FR380

Rear Rim Width: 5"



Aftermarket Front End brand: Stock

Coil Rate: .86" T-bars (I believe)...

Front Shocks: Bilstein RCD

Front Sway bar Dia: N/A


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: Stock

Shocks: Bilstein RCD

Rear Sway bar Dia: N/A

Front Brakes: Stock KH

Rotor Dia Width: 11"

Caliper-Pistons: 2?

Cooling Ducts: None

Rear Brakes : Drums

Drum Size Dia Width: 10"x1.5"

Rotor Dia: N/A

Rotor width :[/b} N/A

[b} Caliper- Pistons : N/A

Parking Brake: Doesn't work

Dual Circuit Dia MC: NAPA 1.03" bore for a 1980 Aspen (should be installed soon)


Chassis:

Subframe Connectors: N/A

Torque Boxes: Stock

Roll bar, Roll Cage: N/A

Aftermarket stiffeners: N/A

Comments:
This is just my starting point. Planning on completely upgrading the suspension this year


1. Best above improvement: Bilstein

2. Least effective above improvement: Taller tires

3. Next improvement: Probably going to go with a suspension rebuild after I get the car drivable, followed by hollow sway bar/s, subframe connectors, 1.0" or greater T-Bars, upgraded Leaf Springs, FF Stage III box, etc.

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): 4-5 (before the shocks)
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#1156397 - 03/03/13 05:33 PM Re: Should we have Suspension Mod Register? [Re: MuuMuu101]
HUSTLESTUFF Offline
pro stock

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1327
Loc: NORTHERN CA
Model: Charger

Year: 1969

Weight: have not weighed, prob 4200 w/ me

Application: Track

Engine Package briefly: 512 440 source 400 block, BRC girdle, .590 cam 274@50, MCH CNC’d edlebrock, Homemade Aluminum Oil pan baffled and gated

Estimate HP: 650

Trans: 18 spline A833 Gearvendor OD

Speeds:4 plus GV

Gears: Stock

RE Ratio: 4.10

RE Type: Dana 60 stock B-body trac-loc



Front Tire Size Brand Model: Nitto NT05 275/40/18

Front Rim width: 18 x 9 4.5 backspace

Rear tire Size Brand Model: Nitto NT 05 295/45/18

Rear Rim Width: 18 x 10 5.0 backspace



Aftermarket Front End brand: Hotchkis UCA, Strut Rods, Firm Feel stage 3 box, boxed LCA, Stiffened K-Member, Firm feel quick ratio pitman and idler arms

TB Dia: 1.125 Unknown Brand

Coil Rate:

Front Shocks: Hotchkis Bilstein

Front Sway bar Dia: 1.375 Hotchkis


Rear Leaf Suspension Model Rate: Unknown (bought third hand) Stiff!!!

Shocks: Hotchkis Bilstein

Rear Sway bar Dia: None

Front Brakes: Wilwood Hubs, Coleman 14” rotor,

Rotor Dia Width: 14” 1.25

Caliper-Pistons: US Brake(AFCO now)F88i, Homemade caliper bracket on stock drum spindle

Cooling Ducts: none

Rear Brakes: Wilwood

Drum Size Dia Width:

Rotor Dia:12.19

Rotor width:.81

Caliper- Pistons : US Brake(AFCO now)F33i

Parking Brake: integral wilwood

Dual Circuit Dia MC: Trck MC Think it’s the 1”


Chassis:

Subframe Connectors: Home made

Torque Boxes:

Roll bar, Roll Cage:

Aftermarket stiffeners: XV radiator support brace

Comments:



1. Best above improvement: Big Bars

2. Least effective above improvement

3. Next improvement

4. Above car handles IMO on a 1-10 ( 10 best Z06, 1 yugo): 10
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