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34 plymouth question #114795
09/03/08 08:23 PM
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i have a 34 plymouth 5 window coupe. The guy i bought it from had already removed the front suspention and steering and through it away. With plans of an IFS.

My plan is an old school style rod(50's). I found a 33 plymouth front suspension. I was wondering will it fit my 34 frame and how will it rid and handle?. I know an IFS would be better but i'm going for an old school look.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


1957 plymouth (christine), 1957 plymouth 45,000 mile surviver, 455 powered 1967 olds cutlass 442, 03 gsxr 750, 1996 dodge ram sport
Re: 34 plymouth question [Re: evil57belvedere] #114796
09/03/08 09:08 PM
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there were different front suspensions those years.
http://www.ply33.com/Models/PD/
http://www.ply33.com/Models/PE/
http://www.ply33.com/Models/PF/
http://www.allpar.com/history/plymouth/1934.html

For stock, go stock.
For a new rod, go aftermarket. example = http://www.streetrodgarage.com/1934plymouthstreetrodchassis.aspx
For a traditional 50's rod, it's tougher.
Fenderless or fendered?
The parallel leafs would look the part, but it can't be lowered much.
The IFS would only work under a fendered car. = http://www.vapinc.com/mopar/Suspension%20Parts/main.html#anchor13264
You could also clip the front frame and mount a F%rd style front (transverse leaf/solid axle)suspension (check speedway and other rod suppliers).

another discussion
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/need-ifs-help-1934-plymouth-34511.html

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238290

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81110

Last edited by RodStRace; 09/03/08 09:25 PM.
Re: 34 plymouth question [Re: RodStRace] #114797
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it will be full fendered. so i guess i can go with IFS, since it will be hidden and i would like it a bit lowered. but not to low.


1957 plymouth (christine), 1957 plymouth 45,000 mile surviver, 455 powered 1967 olds cutlass 442, 03 gsxr 750, 1996 dodge ram sport
Re: 34 plymouth question [Re: evil57belvedere] #114798
09/05/08 04:31 PM
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The Mustang II generic aftermarket front end is the natural one for your car. They are available from about a million vendors, just buy one copy of Street Rodder. I personally like the tubular A-arms that look so much better than the stock MII stuff. You can spend as much or as little as you want for this stuff, even available in polished stainless steel. It is the right size, the MII front end was way overbuilt for the car and it has been used for everything from Model As to pickup trucks. You can put any kind of brakes on it, the possibilities are endless. The suspension geometry is also good. They drive and steer right.
There are other choices but they aren't as good, except maybe the Jaguar derived kits which are in another league price-wise as well. There is a reason that just about every street rod built since 1980 has the MII derived IFS and that's because it is the right tool for the job.

I love the 33-34 Mopars, they have better lines than about anything you will find.

R.

Re: 34 plymouth question [Re: dogdays] #114799
09/05/08 06:37 PM
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Quote:

The Mustang II generic aftermarket front end is the natural one for your car. They are available from about a million vendors, just buy one copy of Street Rodder. I personally like the tubular A-arms that look so much better than the stock MII stuff. You can spend as much or as little as you want for this stuff, even available in polished stainless steel. It is the right size, the MII front end was way overbuilt for the car and it has been used for everything from Model As to pickup trucks. You can put any kind of brakes on it, the possibilities are endless. The suspension geometry is also good. They drive and steer right.
There are other choices but they aren't as good, except maybe the Jaguar derived kits which are in another league price-wise as well. There is a reason that just about every street rod built since 1980 has the MII derived IFS and that's because it is the right tool for the job.

I love the 33-34 Mopars, they have better lines than about anything you will find.

R.







I would say that "IS" the way to go Ron....

Re: 34 plymouth question [Re: Mopar Ron] #114800
09/07/08 10:21 PM
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Another vote for the Mustang II type suspension.

There an easy swap and and with all the options available it makes it easy to tailor to a specific car/engine combination.

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1957 Plymouth (Hemi, Dual Quads, A833 4 Speed 9 1/4 w 4.10) Sold
1937 Dodge Pickup (Hemi, 6X2 intake, 46RH, Dana 60 w 4.56) Sold
1968 Plymouth Valiant 2dr sedan (354 HEMI, 46RH w/4.30 gears)
Re: 34 plymouth question [Re: Mike P] #114801
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With fenders and lowered just a bit you really have to look to see what suspension is there anyway.

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1957 Plymouth (Hemi, Dual Quads, A833 4 Speed 9 1/4 w 4.10) Sold
1937 Dodge Pickup (Hemi, 6X2 intake, 46RH, Dana 60 w 4.56) Sold
1968 Plymouth Valiant 2dr sedan (354 HEMI, 46RH w/4.30 gears)






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