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What can you build with a stock 400 block and 4.15 crank? What is the max size you can build?

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I take it your talking about a BB tall deck 4.15 stroke crank and not a low deck, if so whne you send it out to have the mains turned and the counterweights cut down have them offset grind the rods to either 4.25 or 4.300 stroke with BB chevy rod journla sizes (2.100) You won't have to grind as much in the block to clear the H beam BB Chevy rods like you will with the stock Mopar size rods, no matter what length I have two 400 blocks, one with a 4.300 stroke and the other one is 4.25 stroke both motors make awesome power and unbeilevable toruqe I've built all kinds of stroker BB and the 4.25 and 4.300 are my favorites in a stock block

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Thanks I have a buddy building a big block to try and run down my small block. I know he has a 400 block and was just at his engine builder and say his 4.15 crank and just wondered how big of size it could be.

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Big bores make more power...

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Not when its a tradeoff for cylinder rigidity. Not to mention less overheating trouble.

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Thanks I have a buddy building a big block to try and run down my small block. I know he has a 400 block and was just at his engine builder and say his 4.15 crank and just wondered how big of size it could be.

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hey Brad i know where theres a set of brand new heads the good victor ones,if he doesnt already have heads.

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Thanks I have a buddy building a big block to try and run down my small block. I know he has a 400 block and was just at his engine builder and say his 4.15 crank and just wondered how big of size it could be.

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should be to hard...lol Most guys run the 471-472ish kit. They seem to run real good. Buddy ran mid 9's in an all steel 3300lb+ duster before going to the 500inch low deck, he was in the 9.20's this year. Not bad for an old foot brake car.

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should be to hard...lol Most guys run the 471-472ish kit. They seem to run real good. Buddy ran mid 9's in an all steel 3300lb+ duster before going to the 500inch low deck, he was in the 9.20's this year. Not bad for an old foot brake car.

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Its funny I never see these big blocks run those numbers at the track. Well at least a street car that is, I do see gutted out ones run some mid nines.

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It might need some nos, naz, laughing gas, HP helper, spray, NITROUS.

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Its funny I never see these big blocks run those numbers at the track. Well at least a street car that is, I do see gutted out ones run some mid nines.

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Yea I agree those big blocks need the naz to run a number

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Maybe if you build it, it would need a power adder, or a big block chevy! From what I understand, you got a 400 plus cu in, w-9 motor going on av 10.0's in an abody at a sea-level track.
And as bdazz smblk(aka; my Brother) says. You might wanna get out more often yo some diff tracks. And btw, that motor isn't anything special at all!!!!

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Yea I agree those big blocks need the naz to run a number

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Maybe if you build it, it would need a power adder, or a big block chevy! From what I understand, you got a 400 plus cu in, w-9 motor going on av 10.0's in an abody at a sea-level track.
And as bdazz smblk(aka; my Brother) says. You might wanna get out more often yo some diff tracks. And btw, that motor isn't anything special at all!!!!




I guess you missed the fact that I slow it down to go 10.0 index racing. Yes it is a 422 with w9 rp and has run 9.55 at 143 NA so there is a little left in her yet.

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Mr.Yuck if you are talking about Bill's blue demon it is a 499 with a 670 lift roller.He bought the motor out of my brothers full interior 30x10 tire 69 dart with mufflers and went 9.30's at 146.And 1967dart gt if you never see a street car with a big block run good you need to get out to different tracks more often.Not saying they are everywhere but there are some good running ones out there floating around.

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Mr.Yuck if you are talking about Bill's blue demon it is a 499 with a 670 lift roller.He bought the motor out of my brothers full interior 30x10 tire 69 dart with mufflers and went 9.30's at 146.And 1967dart gt if you never see a street car with a big block run good you need to get out to different tracks more often.Not saying they are everywhere but there are some good running ones out there floating around.

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He says it ran 146 mph last year in the quarter.It was a 499 10 to 1 compression 700+ lift but less then 800 with the indy sr non max wedge in a 3300 lb dart. I think he was streching the truth some what do you guys think. Isn't that like 750hp to run that fast ib that car? From some of the post about big block it doesn't seem like thats what you guy get out of them.

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He says it ran 146 mph last year in the quarter.It was a 499 10 to 1 compression 700+ lift but less then 800 with the indy sr non max wedge in a 3300 lb dart. I think he was streching the truth some what do you guys think. Isn't that like 750hp to run that fast ib that car? From some of the post about big block it doesn't seem like thats what you guy get out of them.

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In the mid 90s we had a 440-1 on a 499ci with about 12-1 static and net intake lift of .687 IIRC. A 3280# 69' Barracuda on SS springs and footbrake w/9" J converter went 145.80 in average ATCO air (maybe 1500ft).

Drove that car on the street as much, or more than any low 9sec N/A car in the country for 4 years, I'll bet.

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Hey Mr yuck you need good heads on a big block to go this fast and everyone in this post has had 440-1 heads. Last time I checked it was a good amount of money for a good set, cnc and rockers intake etc.. It ain't cheap going this fast weather its a big block or small block. I have a lot less in my motor then you think.

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Hey Mr yuck you need good heads on a big block to go this fast and everyone in this post has had 440-1 heads. Last time I checked it was a good amount of money for a good set, cnc and rockers intake etc.. It ain't cheap going this fast weather its a big block or small block. I have a lot less in my motor then you think.

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that's why I hit the "bargin bun" here on moparts when I break something. FWIW I think this stock stroke 440 w/ a larger solid roller, maybe more gear would run low 10's easy in an A-body.

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nothing a stroker kit, bigger stall and better intake/carb can't fix. low 10's are w/ the ported stage VI heads and factory 6 pack. But hey I'm happy w/ the way it runs. I drive it to the track and home (barring breakage) Should be close to 11.0's come spring.

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i dont have any of that stuff. even my intake and carbs i have less than $700 in. bottom of the barrel EZ heads here, standard rockers and mild roller. it ran 6.20s @110 at 3500 lbs in my challenger

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dear mr small block. stock crank 440 with old small indy heads that flow less than some small block indy heads. 262/265cam 630lift solid low 10s. with out having to buy special for these heads parts.

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dear mr small block. stock crank 440 with old small indy heads that flow less than some small block indy heads. 262/265cam 630lift solid low 10s. with out having to buy special for these heads parts.

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I though the SRs where the base head. I though all the 440-1 heads flow better. Isn't a ez just a 440-1 with standard exhaust ports?

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I though the SRs where the base head. I though all the 440-1 heads flow better. Isn't a ez just a 440-1 with standard exhaust ports?

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Drove that car on the street as much, or more than any low 9sec N/A car in the country for 4 years, I'll bet.

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Thats a good running street car, now with less head, less compresion and same weight do you think you could go faster? Thats what I was running late 90s and early 2000s with pump gas and a small block on spray. It was only 385 cuin with edelbrock rpm heads. Wish I never took that motor apart had a lot of fun with it driving all over the place.

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Mr.Yuck if you are talking about Bill's blue demon it is a 499 with a 670 lift roller.He bought the motor out of my brothers full interior 30x10 tire 69 dart with mufflers and went 9.30's at 146.And 1967dart gt if you never see a street car with a big block run good you need to get out to different tracks more often.Not saying they are everywhere but there are some good running ones out there floating around.

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67 jeeesh such hate for BB, you know you could of had one that ran as good or better than that SB for 1/2 the price...lol




Another stupid pissing match. Yucko do you also go pick on the ricer kids in your spare time? It amazes me how much you toot your horn and only run 11.40s. In case you haven't noticed lately its not hard to make good power with small or big blocks. Its a really dumb argument especially when your car is slow.

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67 jeeesh such hate for BB, you know you could of had one that ran as good or better than that SB for 1/2 the price...lol




Another stupid pissing match. Yucko do you also go pick on the ricer kids in your spare time? It amazes me how much you toot your horn and only run 11.40s. In case you haven't noticed lately its not hard to make good power with small or big blocks. Its a really dumb argument especially when your car is slow.

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Mr Yucko,
My apologies! I thought you were turning another post into a sb vs. Bb argument. But it was the poster that started it this time. But in the past a lot of good topics you've hijacked with by stirring that pot.
And yes my pump gas eddie headed smallblock would have ran 11.40s in your car.

But I sold it to a guy that now runs 126mph in the 1/4 with it in all steel duster.
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My apologies! I thought you were turning another post into a sb vs. Bb argument. But it was the poster that started it this time. But in the past a lot of good topics you've hijacked with by stirring that pot.
And yes my pump gas eddie headed smallblock would have ran 11.40s in your car.

But I sold it to a guy that now runs 126mph in the 1/4 with it in all steel duster.
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My apologies! I thought you were turning another post into a sb vs. Bb argument. But it was the poster that started it this time. But in the past a lot of good topics you've hijacked with by stirring that pot.
And yes my pump gas eddie headed smallblock would have ran 11.40s in your car.

But I sold it to a guy that now runs 126mph in the 1/4 with it in all steel duster.
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My first question was on size with low deck and second question was how fast with indy sr's at 499". I have no beef with big blocks just some people think I do,just like bustin on the slow ones. Shoot I race with Guppy every month at cecil so I get to see his bada$$ big block all the time.

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My apologies! I thought you were turning another post into a sb vs. Bb argument. But it was the poster that started it this time. But in the past a lot of good topics you've hijacked with by stirring that pot.
And yes my pump gas eddie headed smallblock would have ran 11.40s in your car.

But I sold it to a guy that now runs 126mph in the 1/4 with it in all steel duster.
I am joining the big block crowd, but I still love those screamin smallblocks

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My first question was on size with low deck and second question was how fast with indy sr's at 499". I have no beef with big blocks just some people think I do,just like bustin on the slow ones. Shoot I race with Guppy every month at cecil so I get to see his bada$$ big block all the time.

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67 Do you ever get down to Mason Dixon?

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