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Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Dos Snails] #1140661
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Its about same price but seats and guides add $$$$$ fast.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140662
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I've seen unported w8's for about you the same coin as the w9s..... but it woud cost a ton to send them before your program....

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Biginchmopar] #1140663
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Man that is real good!

Do ever work on Big Blocks?

I just bought a set of W9's and with those kind of numbers you could make some serious power. I was going to build a 440 small block, I might have to rethink that and go a bit bigger.

I would really like to get those kind of number out of a set of B1-BS heads.




B1-BS head doesn't have a tall enough port for that kind of flow. Only so much you can do with a standard port height. Better capability with the Victor head or the Indy EZ due to the raised port.
It would be nice though, standard height intake port and that kind of flow? It'd surprise the crap out of folks.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: dodgeboy11] #1140664
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If you had any tallent we could get 380 out of a set of B1-BS's.

p.s. another very quick street car is going to rumbling around the Carson area this summer. W9 440 in an A-body

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140665
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Its about same price but seats and guides add $$$$$ fast.


how much for guides and seats ballpark?


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Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Biginchmopar] #1140666
02/19/12 02:56 AM
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J,

If you had any tallent we could get 380 out of a set of B1-BS's.

p.s. another very quick street car is going to rumbling around the Carson area this summer. W9 440 in an A-body




Is that 440 block a 59* lifter bank angle block? I ask b/c I have a set of fully ported W9's for my R1 block but the 59* block with it's 1.875 lifter bore spacing makes me nervous with the push rod angle.. I know I can run the offset rocker but the little 5/16 push rods is less than desirable for my boosted application.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W9 Dart] #1140667
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Sorry, R3 48*!

I don't want to fight the bad lifterbore angle. My buddies at T&D have shown me how important it is to have a good Valve Train.


Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Biginchmopar] #1140668
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This is hand done exhaust ports for W8 hope to get this program on file soon. I thought the W9 proto type ex port would go into the W8 but it will not fit so had to work this one up.

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Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140669
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one ex port

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Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140670
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How you think the 9s compare to the 8s that you have worked on? just asking because there is always a talk about which will make more power and w9 cant make big power.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Otherlane] #1140671
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How you think the 9s compare to the 8s that you have worked on? just asking because there is always a talk about which will make more power and w9 cant make big power.



So far I think W9s have not been given fare shake I think they will make good power but most of the W9 stuff was for dirt track ports and chamber all wrong.
I did not like the W9 for same reason but now that I have worked with them they are nice, Intake port has more meat in it than early W8s.
Draw back is the valve are .100" closer to exhaust side of head.(this will hurt small bore more and small bore with big lift .750"plus will be at disadvantage)
I think if you are doing W9 engine you should run 4.150 bore or bigger then valve placement would be a wash.
The other thing I am updating 3 sets of W8s right now and they are all a PITA start with new W9s and dont look back.
I think my W9 in max effort NA deal can do 850~900HP to be seen but the data on the head backs this up now just need some one to step up and build one.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140672
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Stupid question:

Does your program take a regular port W9 and raise it to where an as cast W9 RP head is OOTB, or are are the castings completely different? I guess what I am asking is will your program working in an older W9 and a W9 RP just the same?

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Scamp451] #1140673
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Only work in old or low port W9.
Still hard head to beat for wedge.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140674
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Im told I may get to see the new W9 ports in Indy.Is that true.

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Hitman340] #1140675
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Shoot me a pm $ on just the chambers only,
Mine is going to be more turbo street than all out race... And beside NRE gets 1500hp out of heads that flow about 300 cfm when boosted & I'm not sure if efi engines suffer from large ports on the street like a carb'ed engine @ low rpms.I usually go for the overkill side of everything ( And usually wind up with a mess)God they look sweet though

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: Dos Snails] #1140676
02/29/12 01:21 AM
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W9 chamber is 61cc with SS valves should be about 58cc with flat Ti valves.
Intake port is 303cc with SS valves Ti valve should be 298~300 cc

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140677
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The W9 head will be with BPE at the indy chrysler performance trade show.Thanks Rod Bloomer
So check it out thanks Brett Miller

Re: w9 cnc heads [Re: W5DART66] #1140678
10/31/12 04:52 PM
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What type/material are the valve seats on these heads out of the box? Is it compatiable with Ti valves?

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