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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: Islandcuda] #1137584
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Where do you get a dated net at? i see them listed SFI non dated.


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: Islandcuda] #1137585
12/19/11 12:05 AM
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I had my car certified this spring and the conversation about belts came up, I suggested it was the dumbest rule ever. His reply was the belts are oil based which means they break down over time, didn,t say how much time just that they do. I don,t know if it was [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] or not, but kinda makes sense. Still not happy about it though.


That`s funny cos if I`m not mistaken, the NASCAR guys don`t have to change em out like we do.


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: Thumperdart] #1137586
12/19/11 02:53 AM
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lol sory about the wrong choice of words moparts. Yes very funny thumper as the next question to techy was...if that,s the case then how come 30 year old cars are allowed to be on the roads with original belts? and he just shrugged his shoulders lol


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: Islandcuda] #1137587
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Semi Trucks have to change every 8 years..

Just saw my belts in the Barracuda were no good.... I bought them a year ago Sept. 2010 but I didn't check the date.. They said Sept 2009..

Guess you always need to check them when they get to your door..


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1137588
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That sucks the big one


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1137589
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just another dumb azz NHRA rule like so many others


I just got my 2012 IHRA rule book in the mail today.
They still only have the 2 year replacement for mesh nets, ribbon nets N/A.


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: Islandcuda] #1137590
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new england dragway (IHRA) would not let me pass tech, net was 4 years old. that was 4 years ago
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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: 440lebaron] #1137591
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Show the guy the rule book, he may just be misinformed.
But then again, the track can make stricter rules than the sanctioning body...

Re: Window net rule update! [Re: 440Jim] #1137592
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As an NHRA tech for Division 3, I can confirm, there has been a rule change for 2012, and the ribbon style nets ARE required to have SFI date tags and and are good for 2-years just like the seat belts. I don't fully agree with it, but that is now the rule.

I personalty talked with one of the head guys for SFI and he indicated they have found when testing belts and window nets that even if kept out of the sun and in good condition, they lose some of their strength just from aging.

Re: Window net rule update! [Re: ProStDodge] #1137593
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As an NHRA tech for Division 3, I can confirm, there has been a rule change for 2012, and the ribbon style nets ARE required to have SFI date tags and and are good for 2-years just like the seat belts. I don't fully agree with it, but that is now the rule.

I personalty talked with one of the head guys for SFI and he indicated they have found when testing belts and window nets that even if kept out of the sun and in good condition, they lose some of their strength just from aging.




We had a guy on here a few years back that tested
belts.... some nasty lookin ones... in each case that
he tested... the latch gave way first.... he never
once had the webbing give out.... and in the testing
I watched at work it was the same way... that webbing
or seat belt material is STRONG stuff(and that was
2" webbing)and we are required 3" except for the
crotch belt which can be 2"..... I dont see the need
to change out a web style window net every 2 years...
the purpose is to keep your arms inside the car(and
the net is suppose to be mounted in board so it cant
be ground away if the car is on its side... its
not a strength issue........JMO

Re: Window net rule update! [Re: ProStDodge] #1137594
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I personalty talked with one of the head guys for SFI and he indicated they have found when testing belts and window nets that even if kept out of the sun and in good condition, they lose some of their strength just from aging.


He should have just said that not updating your window net aids terrorism!


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Re: Window net rule update! [Re: bwdst6] #1137595
02/09/12 05:23 PM
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I was told at one track that my net was out of date. I told him the car didnt need the net as it wouldnt run faster then a 10.0. He then said if it had a cage it needed the net! In return I said the car only needs a roll bar for the ET it runs, it dosnt run fast enough to need the cage. His reply was change the net or go home.. If its got a cage, it needs a net.

Re: Window net rule update! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1137596
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As an NHRA tech for Division 3, I can confirm, there has been a rule change for 2012, and the ribbon style nets ARE required to have SFI date tags and and are good for 2-years just like the seat belts. I don't fully agree with it, but that is now the rule.

I personalty talked with one of the head guys for SFI and he indicated they have found when testing belts and window nets that even if kept out of the sun and in good condition, they lose some of their strength just from aging.




We had a guy on here a few years back that tested
belts.... some nasty lookin ones... in each case that
he tested... the latch gave way first.... he never
once had the webbing give out.... and in the testing
I watched at work it was the same way... that webbing
or seat belt material is STRONG stuff(and that was
2" webbing)and we are required 3" except for the
crotch belt which can be 2"..... I dont see the need
to change out a web style window net every 2 years...
the purpose is to keep your arms inside the car(and
the net is suppose to be mounted in board so it cant
be ground away if the car is on its side... its
not a strength issue........JMO






You so called tech guys, all you have to do is show us the results of the tests showing us that belts fail. Just show us the tests and we will shut up.

That is all I'm asking for before I throw another $100 in the trash or just quit.

If the belts and nets really do fail after two years, how come the HANS device straps are good for five years


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