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Re: Engine Builder Selection
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12/12/11 01:53 PM
12/12/11 01:53 PM
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Mt. Vernon, Ohio
dartman366
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all the above
I agree with Quick, my first engine guy took on a joint venture with another company and didn't have the time to take on any new builds for individuals altho he said he could PROBABLY fit me in since I was a prior customer,,I was extremely happy with his work both quality and price,,was told about my present machinist,and it took me almost a year and a lot of stopping in and discussing and other customers experiences to convince me, only problem is time lines,it takes him quite a while to get things done because a lot of other customers like his work also and he stays real busy. 
Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: joshking440]
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12/12/11 02:30 PM
12/12/11 02:30 PM
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Dunnuck Racing
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There are a few guys that "blow smoke" so to speak. I think you have to talk to other racers and see who they use,and what their real impression of a builder is.
Word of mouth is still the best advertisement,but you have to be careful who you listen to.
One of the problems with relying on that,though is that it does not draw to a very large crowd. I know a very good builder that relies on word of mouth advertising and a lot of people have never heard of him. He stays busy,but could easily get more work by advertising.
Keith
Last edited by Dunnuck Racing; 12/12/11 02:42 PM.
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: dartman366]
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12/12/11 02:46 PM
12/12/11 02:46 PM
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
BradH
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Not hard to figure out I haven't been exactly thrilled with some of the machinists or engine builders I've used in the past.
That's why I assemble my own as I can catch anything that's not right. 
Same here. I rely on others only for specific machine work and handle all the assembly myself now.
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: joshking440]
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12/12/11 02:50 PM
12/12/11 02:50 PM
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lewtot184
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But we see it all the time....we read about someone who took an engine to "x" shop and I know there is a large portion of us reading that says to ourselves.... why the heck would you let "x" do that type of build, or touch your motor .... but yet people still go back.
do it yourself and leave the "x" factor out of it.
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: lewtot184]
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12/12/11 03:49 PM
12/12/11 03:49 PM
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Finally a HUSKER again
Moparnut426
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Josh, for me its 1st, reputation, and 2nd timeline, last of all is the location.
I have a great machins here who does my little stuff, im talking stuff that really dosnt matter performance wise, then I have a guy, Kecks machine who does my local small block performance stuff, he did the bottom end on the 408 in the demon, then for the really good stuff I want to be perfect I send my stuff to Dan at performance only. You know he is good as I dont believe there has EVER been a bad thing spken about him on here.
As for Kech, he is great just really time consuming. Its great when done, just "when its done". I just had some heads surfaced, and had a block bored at the local guys shop, Not a performance job by any means, rougher bore than Id like, and the heads were milled a little rough. But they work for minor stuff. Gonna run fine, just not perfect.
I assemble everything myself with the exception of the bottom end on my 408, I didnt have a rod bolt stretch gauge, so didnt want to risk it.
Its completely up to you and I know you probly have a shop in mind for anything you ever do, everyone does.
Kasey
Last edited by moparnut426; 12/12/11 03:51 PM.
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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12/12/11 06:47 PM
12/12/11 06:47 PM
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n20mstr
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I GO LOCAL for machine work. I got to one guy for headwork intake and cams Then i put it all together myself. Thats what us "little " guys do. I just dont have the $$$$$$ to let people "build" my motor Maybe thats why im slow  What exactly is your point Josh????
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: fishy340]
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12/12/11 08:16 PM
12/12/11 08:16 PM
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383man
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I have always built my own engines. Course I dont have no 8 second car either but I became a tech in 1974 because I wanted to work on cars for a living and I wanted to learn to do it all not just a parts hanger. It actually amazes me how many techs I know that dont build their own engines. Sure I have to farm out some machine work and because of my bad back I decided to go with having Dwayne Porter work my heads on this eng but I still built the eng. I have no problem admitting when I cant do something anymore and I definetly cant bend over a cyl head for hrs porting them with my back. And Dwayne is a professional head porter so he will definetly do a better job then I could ever do. I was very happy to work with someone as nice as him and I know my heads are right. It does give you some pride doing your own work if you can. Ron
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Re: Engine Builder Selection
[Re: 383man]
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12/12/11 08:53 PM
12/12/11 08:53 PM
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cincinnati ohio
mcat4321
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i get a kick out of the "i do it myself" guys... thats not me. i work at what i am good at, and i pay a professional to do what he is good at.. in the most part its not rocket science.. but experience is alot... i personally use BES racing engines, argueably the best in the business. just look at his engine masters record.. ill work a couple extra saturdays doing what i do to have the piece of mind that a real pro built my stuff.
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Me TOO 
There are no secrets to success in engine building 
You have to have a very good machine shop do that work,you need to have the proper tools to check the machine shops work, use really good parts and assemble it correctly after you have made sure that all the work and components are correct and then keep it as clean as you would want for your very own brain surgery 