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Driveshaft length vs rear axle movement and ..... #1130916
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U-joint life?

I am guessing that I might wind-up with a DS that is about 12" long if I go with a long-shaft 727(because I want to maintain FULL-AUTO shifting). With a decent set of SS-type springs ...and longer shocks ... will I be in the danger-zone of spitting-out DS's(because of radial U-joint angles) ?

ORE ...am I going to have to go with a aftermarket shortie kit on the trans ?

Re: Driveshaft length vs rear axle movement and ..... [Re: dOc !] #1130917
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Most likely its going to put the U-joint in bind being
that short of DS and SS springs... you would be way
better off with a 4 link in that set up

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Hay Mike .... just for food-for-thought ... how much would a complete 4 link set up be?

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Hay Mike .... just for food-for-thought ... how much would a complete 4 link set up be?




About $300 if you make the bars yourself... I buy
the brackets for the rear and frame from S&W and buy
heims at summit or else where and cut and tap my
own tubing... if you need the front cross bars add
about another $100 or so(I bend my own)
EDIT
Add for coil over shocks... I went with Strange

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I don't think my chassis-guy wants to build all that. He IS going to "build" the rear frame extensions ....

So what would be the cost on the bars, heims and shocks etc ?

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I don't think my chassis-guy wants to build all that. He IS going to "build" the rear frame extensions ....

So what would be the cost on the bars, heims and shocks etc ?




Go look at http://www.swracecars.com/ and see what you want

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OK ...I will that ... but I am just looking for a ball-park at this point.

How much LESS axle movement is there in a 4link vs leaf-spring ...in order to be effective?

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OK ...I will that ... but I am just looking for a ball-park at this point.

How much LESS axle movement is there in a 4link vs leaf-spring ...in order to be effective?




Go look ... they offer cheaper and higher price...
the thing with a 4 link you can control how much
movement you want... if you go over or under the
anti squat line

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I have NEVER run a 4 link ...but how do you control up-down movement ? ... if not with the shocks and coil-overs?

Re: Driveshaft length vs rear axle movement and ..... [Re: dOc !] #1130925
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Doc, I would call Mark Williams or another driveshaft company to see what their take on a short driveshaft is before going forward. A four link will definately keep the u joints closer to the proper angles,provided you keep the I C long. My worry is the angle of the driveshaft that could result from suspension travel.
The other thing that comes to mind is if you have a lot of suspesion movement, you also will have a lot of travel at the trans yoke. Possible bind?


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I know once I got my set up right inland empire told me "3/4" was the
play fore and aft that was the best. I think originally I had a 1/2" more and they said it weakened the the u-joint 50%.







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