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#1119199 - 11/22/11 12:06 PM K-FRAME PAINT???
Labratt Offline
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Since my original post disappeared...I'll try again! My k-frame is being removed for a frame rail repair,and was wanting to know what to use that's DURABLE....and ECONOMICAL! If there's a spray-can product out there,that would be GREAT! I hear Rustoleum makes some good epoxy-based paints,but wanted to get some ideas from you guys who have gone this route! Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Randy B.


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#1119200 - 11/22/11 12:37 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
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Chassis black from Eastwood has proven to be a very durable paint out of a spray can for me.
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#1119201 - 11/22/11 12:42 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Challenger 1]
Labratt Offline
Good Ol Randy B!

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Thanks,Gary! Is it a Satin black..or gloss? BTW...it was great,talking to you,and your wife..at the Donut Cutter,2 Cruises ago! You've got a VERY NICE Challenger!...looks like 2 VERY NICE Challengers,in your sig pic! Randy B.


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#1119202 - 11/22/11 12:54 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
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Thanks, it's a semi gloss I guess.
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#1119203 - 11/22/11 01:01 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Challenger 1]
JohnRR Offline
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Thanks, it's a semi gloss I guess.





Yes semigloss , holds up well and you can get decent results out of the can.

NAPA also sells a chassis black paint I had good results with.

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#1119204 - 11/22/11 01:02 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
cogen80 Offline
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i would powder coat it.

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#1119205 - 11/22/11 02:59 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: cogen80]
gtx6970 Offline
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i would powder coat it.




if 100% OE correctnes is not a concern this the way I would go.

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#1119206 - 11/22/11 03:17 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: gtx6970]
RJS Offline
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i would powder coat it.




if 100% OE correctness is not a concern this the way I would go.




The OP is asking about spray cans so I doubt 100% OE is on his mind.
Powder coat in 45% black and call it a day.

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#1119207 - 11/22/11 05:40 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: RJS]
ahy Offline
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I too have had good results with the Eastwood SG chassis black. If there is some rust on the frame, a first coat of Eastwood black rust encapsulator primer would help it last longer.

If you want to keep cost way down and have access to a small sprayer, hit it with SG black Rustoleum from the hardware store thinned with 10-15% paint thinner... or just brush it on. SG black is very forgiving.

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#1119208 - 11/22/11 07:10 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Challenger 1]
astjp2 Offline
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Who's sway bar kit is that? Tim

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Thanks, it's a semi gloss I guess.




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#1119209 - 11/22/11 07:18 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Challenger 1]
OzHemi Offline
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Chassis black from Eastwood has proven to be a very durable paint out of a spray can for me.




I've used thier Extreme chassis black a bunch of times now and am very happy with it.
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#1119210 - 11/22/11 07:32 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: OzHemi]
Labratt Offline
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As stated..OE,and factory correct is NOT a concern of mine!...not with all my modifications! In fact,I'm leaning toward painting the engine block BLACK! Orange 8 qt. oil pan..aluminum heads,and orange M-1 intake manifold. I will call my powder-coater for a price! Hopefully,it's reasonable..or I'll have to spray it myself! Thanks,guys!
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#1119211 - 11/22/11 07:34 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: OzHemi]
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I used the Krylon Epoxy paint on the 8 3/4 that I put in my 81 shorty 10 years ago.. came out real nice and still looks good today...
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#1119212 - 11/22/11 07:36 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
OzHemi Offline
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painting the engine block BLACK!



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Orange 8 qt. oil pan..



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orange M-1 intake manifold














Oh, and nice thing about the chassis paint, if you ever do scratch it (not easy to do!) or what not...you can always touch it up...
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#1119213 - 11/22/11 08:08 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
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Alkyld enamels, such as Rustoluem, two biggest faults are chalking due to UV light exposure (from the sun, etc.) and chemical resistance. Adding some hardener will increase the chemical resistance considerably. Parts underneath the car receive minimal UV light exposure, so Rustoleum with some hardener added should hold up well. This type of finish would be acceptable for a summer time week-end car.

Obviously, a person could spend more money and use an epoxy primer and urethane paint or power coat chassis parts. These are superior coatings. I would seriously consider these finishes for vehicles driven on salt treated roads.

On a vehicle which is driven, any chassis paint or coating will be chipped and scratched over time. So a finish which can be easily repaired is usually a good idea for a frequently driven vehicle.


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#1119214 - 11/22/11 08:12 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: QuickDodge]
Sledge_57 Offline
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Powder Coat maybe? I know a guy if you're interested Randy.
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#1119215 - 11/22/11 08:50 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Sledge_57]
Lee446 Offline
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Rustoleum in a one pint can, flows well and covers well, the brush marks flow right out. POR also works well and is tough. Neither are sprays, but are more durable. Did the steering boxes make it up OK? Lee.

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#1119216 - 11/22/11 09:07 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Lee446]
AAR#2 Offline
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I used a semi gloss black powdercoat, turned out great and will wear well. My powdercoater is way reasonable. Blasting and coating was about $40


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#1119217 - 11/22/11 09:54 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: AAR#2]
Labratt Offline
Good Ol Randy B!

Registered: 09/30/09
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Loc: Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
Lew..FORTY DOLLARS??? What a deal! Hopfully,Bill at QC Coatings can give me a similiar price! Powder Coating seems like the way to go...if the price is NICE! Thank You ALL for your opinions..and experiences! I truly appreciate it! Randy B.
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#1119218 - 11/22/11 10:46 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: AAR#2]
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Powder Coating is the only way to go.
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#1119219 - 11/22/11 11:18 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: QuickDodge]
B5 Bee Offline
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Alkyld enamels, such as Rustoluem, two biggest faults are chalking due to UV light exposure (from the sun, etc.) and chemical resistance. Adding some hardener will increase the chemical resistance considerably. Parts underneath the car receive minimal UV light exposure, so Rustoleum with some hardener added should hold up well. This type of finish would be acceptable for a summer time week-end car.




Will any kind of hardener for enamel work?

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#1119220 - 11/23/11 05:57 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
AAR#2 Offline
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Loc: Dry Heat AZ
Check around your area, in AZ powdercoating fees vary greatly. The guys I go to now are awesome and the $$ is great. They have a $30 minimum for any one color. I remember once I had 12 items, all smaller, leaf spring brackets front and rear, rear shock perch, leaf spring bumper (attached to frame), upper control arms . . . . and was only charged the min $30. I've decided its cheaper for that (all things considered) than for me to strip/blast, prime and paint.
That said others in the area charge in the neighborhood of 70% more

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#1119221 - 11/23/11 06:44 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
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The last 2 k-frames I painted I used black farm implement paint on. It's extremely durable and even sticks to rust. Tractor Supply carries it if you have them in your area.
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#1119222 - 11/23/11 07:33 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: AAR#2]
chargincharles Offline
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I know I'm gonna get hit for this BUT-
I've used POR-15 semigloss black on a few K-frames and never had any issues. Still holding up fine on my 5th at the moment.
That being said-
IF OEM is no concern, and the K is out and ready- Powder Coating IS the only way to go.

Good luck with it!
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#1119223 - 11/23/11 08:03 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
JohnRR Offline
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Lew..FORTY DOLLARS??? What a deal! Hopfully,Bill at QC Coatings can give me a similiar price! Powder Coating seems like the way to go...if the price is NICE! Thank You ALL for your opinions..and experiences! I truly appreciate it! Randy B.




Randy I think that powder coating is only that cheap in Arizona , I've never been able to get something done that cheap here in the northeast .

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#1119224 - 11/23/11 11:09 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: JohnRR]
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Hmmmm;

I powdercoated mine, but despite all the rhetoric, ANYTHING you do is better than the thin coat of GLOSS black the factory used. It's nice to use the best product available, but for the useage of the average hobbiest, anything better than a spray bomb is overkill.....which is fine.


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#1119225 - 11/23/11 09:37 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: DPelletier]
Labratt Offline
Good Ol Randy B!

Registered: 09/30/09
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Thanks everyone! Because of time restraints,I think I'm going to check out the farm implement paint from Tractor Supply. My painter wants the car to him by the end of the month...next wednesday or thursday! My powder coater has a pretty long back-log right now,anyway! Thanks again! Randy B.
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#1119226 - 11/24/11 06:25 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
MR_P_BODY Offline
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Thanks everyone! Because of time restraints,I think I'm going to check out the farm implement paint from Tractor Supply. My painter wants the car to him by the end of the month...next wednesday or thursday! My powder coater has a pretty long back-log right now,anyway! Thanks again! Randy B.




Randy, that implement paint(TSC) is some TOUGH stuff...
I painted my crawler loader(the yellow front loader
thats up north) with it about 20 years ago.... you
can brush it on OR thin it and spray it
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#1119227 - 11/24/11 07:56 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: MR_P_BODY]
Labratt Offline
Good Ol Randy B!

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Loc: Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...
Thanks for the info,Mike! Do you think a quart will be enough..if I brush it on? I will probably paint the steering components with it,as well!
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#1119228 - 11/24/11 08:32 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
MR_P_BODY Offline
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Thanks for the info,Mike! Do you think a quart will be enough..if I brush it on? I will probably paint the steering components with it,as well!




A QT is plenty(plus that stuff has a UV protectant)
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#1119229 - 11/24/11 09:48 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Challenger 1]
OzHemi Offline
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Chassis black from Eastwood has proven to be a very durable paint out of a spray can for me.




BTW...just got an email that they have it on sale for black Friday.
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#1119230 - 11/24/11 10:26 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: OzHemi]
Labratt Offline
Good Ol Randy B!

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Thanks for the info,Mike...and Jeff!
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#1119231 - 11/25/11 08:36 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: Labratt]
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Loc: Iowa
How does the Eastwood paint compare to SEM Trim Black? Is the Trim Black close to the correct color or should there be more gloss? I've got some of the REM paint and I'm wondering if I should order some of the chassis black.

Eastwood lists Chassis Black(satin and gloss) AND Extreme Chassis Black (satin and gloss) What's the difference? Would a coat of Diamond clear over the Chassis Black be a good idea?
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#1119232 - 11/25/11 09:00 AM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: burdar]
rallye73 Offline
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I think I'm gonna paint mine with semi gloss black engine paint.

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#1119233 - 11/25/11 04:38 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: rallye73]
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I went t the local Menards and bought a gallon can of Alykyd Enamel. Its a direct to metal paint.

I rolled it on with a foam roller, and touched up the small areas with foam pads.

Hard to tell it wasnt sprayed.

I have used this type of paint for many things, picinic tables (5 years outside and still going),
canoes, and most recently on forklifts in a meat plant, where the trucks are subjected to high temp high pressure sanitizer/water solutions. ITs the longest lasting stuff fo that application.
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#1119234 - 11/26/11 10:13 PM Re: K-FRAME PAINT??? [Re: NTOLERANCE]
Labratt Offline
Good Ol Randy B!

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Doc,thanks for that info!...I'll check into it! Gotta find a Menard's around here somewhere! I think there might be one near Flint...an hour away!
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