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'68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings #1118248
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Hey gang..
Not sure if an all-encompassing question has been posed, but I didn't find exactly what I was looking for.

Car: '68 Hemi Charger R/T 4-speed

Topic: ID stampings

Question: We all agree for the most part, that in '68, the VIN of the car was stamped on the block on the driver's side upper bellhousing mating area with the bellhousing of either the 727 or 4-speed stamped the same. Now, on a 4-speed, was the pad that's actually on the gearbox get stamped with the partial VIN "8B******" as well?

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Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: hemi68charger] #1118249
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If the transmission was stamped with the partial vin (not all '68's were), it would be on the raised pad on the side of the transmission.

Dan

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: Dans 68] #1118250
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Here's a Hemi example. Concerning non stamped examples, FWIW I've never seen an original 68 Hemi car that did not have a stamped pad.

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1118251
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Thanks Scott...
To clear things up, the drivetrain was stamped with the partial VIN as opposed to the body panels being stamped with the VON in '68.

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Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: hemi68charger] #1118252
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Yes, on a '68 "performance engine" - the block & 4-speed (or 727) will have the last 8-digits of the VIN# (NOT the Shipping Order Number, S.O.#, that is stamped on the body).

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: hemi68charger] #1118253
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Correct, here is the VIN tag from the same car

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1118254
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Here is the fender tag from the same car

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1118255
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Here is the trunk lip body stamping from the same car. The core support number stamping matched but the engine was a replacement.

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1118256
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Quote:

Here's a Hemi example. Concerning non stamped examples, FWIW I've never seen an original 68 Hemi car that did not have a stamped pad.




Sorry for robbing the thread. Scott what would be the date on my hemi box date of 0140

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Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: hemi4speed] #1118257
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That sounds like a sequence number not the date, what are the 4 digits prior to those?

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1118258
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Try posting a picture no luck!

8B279428
PP8332356 0140

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: hemi4speed] #1118259
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2356 WOW! January 9th 1968. Same date as the example I posted! Built only 44 transmissions appart

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I notice that also we got to play the lotto with those #'s
Thanks

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Check out my fender tag SPD 424

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Just for kicks, what's your cars SPD and VIN sequence number?

Re: '68 Hemi 4-speed drivetrain ID stampings [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1118263
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Dash Vin# 225124

When I bought the car it had a 23 spline in it, I rebuilt the 18 spline I had under the bench, I guess I couldnt get much closer other than finding the #'s tranny. These 2 hemi cars passed by each other on the same line the same day!!

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Quote:

Just for kicks, what's your cars SPD and VIN sequence number?




Holy Mackerel Scott!!!
The pictures of the tag and VIN you posted are of the car my friend's interested in !!!!! He asked me what I thought about the car since I used to own a '68 Hemi Charger R/T (you remember the LL1 I had I'm sure). I have other pictures of it together

You know any more about the car? PM me....


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That's pretty darn cool! So, you are saying that you don't have the original numbers trans but the one you do have aligns perfectly with a different car with the very same SPD? What are the odds!

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Thats correct Scott

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Yea I know the car, here it is sitting in my driveway

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Quote:

These 2 hemi cars passed by each other on the same line the same day!!




XS29x8B279428 spd 205 (2/5/68) & 4-speed trans assembly date 1/9/68 (440 or HEMI Charger R/T - if the trans has always been an 18-spline)

XS29J8B357735 spd 424 (4/24/68) & 4-speed trans assembly date 1/9/68

RS23J8G225124 spd 424 (4/24/68)

The Chargers were assmbled at Hamtramck - the GTX at St. Louis, but it is a simple example that "first in - first out" practices were NOT in use at the assembly plants.
11 weeks & just short of 80,000 cars were built at Hamtramck between the use of 2 transmissions built on the same day (44 units apart).

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Still quite a coincidence !

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Of equal is the fact that you (without knowledge) posted a pic of the trans from the very car that the OP is posting about.

Psychic or psychotic? You choose.

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I prefer Physco!

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I prefer Physco!




So, is it safe to call you?


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Thanks again Scott.. Friend decided to pass on the car.


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No problem, if I here of any others out there for sale I'll let you know

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I have a question. do you have a 1968 DODGE hemi charger? 7735
What kind of car is this?
Is it the original 426hemi engine 4speed pp1 Red/white?

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Scott posted pic of car above

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wonderful  Is this car original color, original hemi, original 4 speed?

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