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......all I can say is this: whether or not they are horrible filters, WHY risk a brand new motor to save $1.50??

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THIS.

Especially if you go to the Hot Deals section here and look at the top thread 'Discounts on WIX filters for moparts members'. You can get GOOD filters even cheaper than most anywhere else!

(I'm not affiliated with them, just hate to see motors possibly junked to save a few bucks).

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Probably a good idea...I saw one fail a month ago...but whether one believes they fail more often than some other brands, or not, they are still cheaply built and don't flow as well as better brands...all one has to do is cut one open and cut open a good brand and compare how small the oil passages are from the inlet holes to the filter media. Then cut open a Wix, Baldwin, etc. and see the difference.

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Price does dictate quality! Fram as well as any of the above mention companies ,all make a cheeper 'line ' of filters, all for the consumer to decide what filter fits their needs.
We in the racing world/ street cars that have hard earned money on motors tend not to run a 'cheeper 'filter.Then it get down to who ever your best friend says, or that's the oil filer my dad run, best yet , the ol display sitting on the counter trick,, take a cheeper filter , put it up against top of the line stuff, guess what? You just fell into the marketing world of sales! then you say, well they have all this info of their filter does this, and it's 10 x better than that one.
best piece of advice , change your oil in timely manner, 3-5000 range. Always change filter(of your choice),don't forget the air filter and breather filter, try to keep as clean of air going into the motor as possiable. put in a decent grade of oil, look at your oil, see whats in it, I always run a magnetic oil drain bolt, I also run a synthetic oil, most of these newer cars , I highly recommend it. but it's your choice.

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I have used Fram myself without any issues in numerous cars. That being said, I have heard bad things about them so I have since stopped using their standard line and have gone to other brands or their ToughGaurd.

Intersetingly enough, I have a friend who had his 2007 Honda Accord leave him stranded on the side of the road one day...turns out his FRAM oil filter had disintegrated and fallen apart and gummed up the works! So I guess I definitely won't be using their standard series anymore!

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Last time I cut one open, it was one of the better ones, it still had the cardboard ends glued on it. The one I mentioned from a month ago was the Xtreme Guard....the filter was okay, but, the anti drainback valve was not stopping the drain back.

One of my Buick friends called me about his new engine that would not hold a prime. He fired it up, was running well, so he drove it down to the gas station to fill the tank. When He fired it up, it started rattling and he looked at the gauge to see no oil pressure.

Called for a tow, got it home, poured some oil down the oil cooler line back into the pump (external pump up on the front cover that will hardly ever prime by turning the pump) and it had great pressure. Turned it off, let it sit for a few minutes and it had no pressure.

Called me to ask what he should check when he tore it apart and I told him to go get a Napa or Wix filter, or anything but Fram or AC, and he informed me that he always used Fram and that was what was on it. Anyway, the Napa filter fixed it.

I suspect we will see an increasing amount of problems will a lot of brands that are made overseas. It is just that Fram has been a prime candidate for failure for a long time due to the construction techniques employed.

Put a high volume pump and some heavy oil
in one and increase the load on the element and I think it is more likely to collapse.

The more expensive filters with the smaller particle filtration may be even more prone as the internal load is greater due to the resistance to flow. That is an opinion-not a fact, however.

That is what is intriguing in the nano filter technique by Amsoil. It claims high flow rates. We will probably never see an independent flow test between brands...that would be bad for advertising.

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After meeting Herb McCandless,I only use Baldwin oil filters.

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After meeting Herb McCandless,I only use Baldwin oil filters.

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I agree!!Still use em and sell to my friends when they need em and cant get em!

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After meeting Herb McCandless,I only use Baldwin oil filters.

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I agree!!Still use em and sell to my friends when they need em and cant get em!

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After meeting Herb McCandless,I only use Baldwin oil filters.

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I agree!!Still use em and sell to my friends when they need em and cant get em!

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I have been using Baldwin filters for over 20 years!I just use what i think is better quality than others that`s all!
And NO!!I am not a monkey see monkey do!!Beside`s i don`t need a toupee yet!!

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Donaldson links shut down, bummer...

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CS .... it PROBABLY is not that ... they more-than-likely could not sell anymore of those FORTY THREE DOLLAR oil filters ..