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Big single or dual turbos #1111611
11/11/11 10:56 PM
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Okay so the time has come for me to start putting the motor together for my Dart. What I have right now is a 3/4 filled 400, with 440-1 heads, 9 to 1 static with good rods and crank at 4.15. Haven't pick a cam as of yet, but I'm try to decide weather or not I should run one big single or run dual turbos. The fender wells are cut out for headers so I was going to mount the duals right there. I dont know enough about them to figure this one out for myself. Its 3,300lbs dana, spool ladder bars, full cage, but its going to be driven on the street as well as the track. More so on the street. I'm not looking to set it on kill right now, and not with that block. So come on guys give me a hand as I'm going to start buying some parts with in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the help...

Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1111612
11/11/11 11:17 PM
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My If there are singles big enough (there are)to do the job, it would be simpler and less complicated to go single. The fewer number of parts involved,wastegates,gaskets,blowoffs,oil supplies/drains,turbos,associated cold side pipes, etc.,the fewer parts there are to give trouble/fail.

Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1111613
11/12/11 01:41 AM
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i'm putting together almost the same thing as you, except im less stroke and comp with a set of Victors, putting twin 76mm on my valiant, and will make WAY more power than a stock block will handle at max boost, mainly cause i like the packaging better, prob try and keep mine under 18lbs, as far as twins or a single, if you shop around a twin set up can be built cheaper! because a Big 114 or bigger will cost as much as all the other parts put together, it really comes down to how much power you want to make, an WHAT YOU REALLY WANT, im shooting for 950 and keeping it very streetable, and to all the sceptics it can and will work, wrench rat built a 355 chevy with two 67mm and it made 936rwhp with a water meth injection, it was in the April 2011 copy of Car Craft, good luck with your build.

Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: Randy..] #1111614
11/12/11 03:45 PM
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Right now I'm looking at making around 1,000 hp streetable. And up with after market block later ! That was thinking with duals, cheaper than one big!

Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1111615
11/12/11 05:32 PM
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The twins vs single debate generally comes down to packaging. What's easier for you to fit in your car?

Many times the pricing between the two isn't far off.


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Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: feets] #1111616
11/12/11 10:14 PM
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I have the room for either.. Just wondering if the duals would spool faster with less turbo lag. I dont really see how tubing would be an issue. I mean the headers would be right to the fenders where they are cut out. Just trying to figure out what would be the best for my app..

Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1111617
11/13/11 05:08 PM
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with big cubes john, it will spool as quick as you need

Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1111618
11/13/11 09:38 PM
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Right now I'm looking at making around 1,000 hp streetable. And up with after market block later ! That was thinking with duals, cheaper than one big!




A big single T-6 flange turbo will get you there easily. I would say the new Borg Warner 88. This turbo can support 1600 HP and would probably spool fast in your application. The Borg Warner stuff have big turbines to support these power levels without adding a lot of backpressure.

Allan G.


1970 Challenger w/572 Hemi street car and my pride and joy. 1986 T-Type with 272 Stage 2 Buick V6 engine - True 8 second street car. Just updated the engine and put down 928 HP @ 35# boost to the ground on chasis dyno. 1976 Cee Bee Avenger Jet Boat - 460 Ford powered.
Re: Big single or dual turbos [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1111619
11/14/11 05:07 AM
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I have the room for either.. Just wondering if the duals would spool faster with less turbo lag. I dont really see how tubing would be an issue. I mean the headers would be right to the fenders where they are cut out. Just trying to figure out what would be the best for my app..



I am using the B/W S480 w/1.10 a/r turbine housing on a blow-through 411" B engine. On paper should be well into boost at 2800rpm. If there is a lag issue a "Sneeky Pete" with a 50 shot will take care of that.
As stated before, alot less parts and materials. The S480 is good to 1150hp and at a good price, around $900.


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