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8 3/4 strength poll!! #110682
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Gents,

I asked a question earlier about the 8 3/4 rearend and its strength. I went on FAST to see what Tom Cannon runs, an 8 3/4-runs-11's or Ralph Barbagallo's 70 Bird runs low 11's at near 3800#'s with him in it.How much power are you guys hitting your 8 3/4's with? Are you supercharged,nitrous,etc,etc. Lets see some hard real numbers to make an informed decision.I know the Dana's better but much more$$$.I'm not running 8's either.High 11's low 12's @ 5800 ft.- Thanks guys,Gary

Re: 8 3/4 strength poll!! [Re: hemiluver] #110683
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I've put 500+ passes on mine. W2 smallblock, torqueflite, 3000lb A-body. Spool, aftermarket axles, 4.86 gear, green bearings, 14 inch wide slicks. 10.90 in the quarter. It's been absolutely maintenance free.


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Re: 8 3/4 strength poll!! [Re: hemiluver] #110684
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If you don't already have the 8 3/4 a Dana isn't alot more expensive. Truck housings can still be found for under $100.00 add ends $85.00 and labor to have shortened$150.00. Good axles are the same price for either rear,spools or limited slips can be had for either. The 8 3/4 is a great rear for a street stip car,but as you get into the 10's or quicker the Dana has is the better choice. I recently sold an 8 3/4 complete with good axles that had never been broken in my 10 years and 1000's of passes,but sold it an built a Dana and had money left over.

Re: 8 3/4 strength poll!! [Re: goldmember] #110685
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back brace it and go

I will stay 8 3/4 myself just for quick gear changes

lets see that with a D60


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Put some 1:30 & better 60' times and a trans. brake up against an 8-3/4 housing and see how long it lasts! I have a useless back braced housing to prove it! If your not running a class that your looking to shave hundreths of a second off of, spend the $$$ and go Dana....your budget will thank you in the long run!


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Ok thanks for some info,but as said what real #'s are we talking,give me ETs and weights. And to all you guys,YES WE KNOW D-60's are the strongest.But for a guys with an 8 3/4 what can we push the limits too-and have longevity.

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I used a slightly modified one in a 3200# Nostalgia SS car that ran 10.0s. Did some minor bracing and welded the tubes to the center section. A stock one bent the axle tubes forward

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Challenger, 3400#'s, trans. brake, ladder bars, 6:20's equals a bent braced 8-3/4 housing.....it now has a 4-link and a Dana!

If your running high 11's, low 12's and so on....you should be fine with an 8-3/4 but like "scratchnfotraction" said, back brace it & go... If your going to use an 8-3/4, I would definitely brace it. Ladder Bar cars are real hard on rear end housings more so than 4-link cars and if your just using super stock leaf springs & or Cal Tracs or something like that, a braced 8-3/4 should be fine.

One more thing....the shorter the housing, the stronger it is and less "likely" to bend.

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I know someone that has a 69 superbee, hemi runs 8.90's with an 8 3/4 no back brace. It has never broke. Maybe you guys are getting it to hot welding the brace on?

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Sounds like he is lucky to keep it in the car and straight? Heat....could be but I know the SS/AA or now called SS/AH cars (due to re-classifying these cars because of the Bow Tie Whiners).......run that e.t. and quicker, could not keep 8-3/4's in their cars back in the day and some of those cars used to use 12 bolt Chevrolet rear ends because they were the lightest but bent also, a lot of them are using dana's even though they are heaviest and some are to this day, using braced 9" housings.


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Re: 8 3/4 strength poll!! [Re: hemiluver] #110692
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Ok thanks for some info,but as said what real #'s are we talking,give me ETs and weights. And to all you guys,YES WE KNOW D-60's are the strongest.But for a guys with an 8 3/4 what can we push the limits too-and have longevity.




how about telling how YOU WILL USE THE CAR , what tires , 4 speed or automatic , dumping the clutch at 5000 rpm with slicks ???

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F.A.S.T guys have skinny reproduction bias-ply tires and probably leave at relatively low rpm's because of that fact.

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F.A.S.T guys have skinny reproduction bias-ply tires and probably leave at relatively low rpm's because of that fact.




ding ding ding .... WINNER

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The 68 Hurst Hemi Darts with auto trans came with 8 3/4 and ran 10 's . I don't know how many broke, but that's the way they came from the factory.

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Thanks guys,

As far as launching the car I posted it in my first one but neglected to on this one. The cars a 68 RR 4spd 4:30's the car made 380 hp at the tire before I installed a Landy built 174 B&M supercharger with 6lbs of boost the car should make 670hp at the crank and a bit over 500 at the tire. I used to launch at 4k naturally aspirated but now roll out at 1800 to 2k due to tire spin. It now runs 28x11.5 Hoosier quick time pro's before I had MTs street ET's which were 1" narrower at the footprint. The cars best naturally was 13.01 I've yet to make a good clean pass blown. Sounds slow? But remember I'm at Bandimere in Colo with an alt of 5800 ft which after correcting ='s way over 6500 ft-You flat landers are lucky!By the way the car weighs 3730 with me in it!Thanks again-Gary

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Thanks guys,

As far as launching the car I posted it in my first one but neglected to on this one. The cars a 68 RR 4spd 4:30's the car made 380 hp at the tire before I installed a Landy built 174 B&M supercharger with 6lbs of boost the car should make 670hp at the crank and a bit over 500 at the tire. I used to launch at 4k naturally aspirated but now roll out at 1800 to 2k due to tire spin. It now runs 28x11.5 Hoosier quick time pro's before I had MTs street ET's which were 1" narrower at the footprint. The cars best naturally was 13.01 I've yet to make a good clean pass blown. Sounds slow? But remember I'm at Bandimere in Colo with an alt of 5800 ft which after correcting ='s way over 6500 ft-You flat landers are lucky!By the way the car weighs 3730 with me in it!Thanks again-Gary




That rear is on borrowed time , as you have already found out with your sure grip making weird noises .


Re: 8 3/4 strength poll!! [Re: JohnRR] #110698
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I've run these cars for 30 years. If I can buy a fairly bullet proof piece for a reasonable price I just don't know why I would spend almost the same price on a piece I would be wondering about. A dana is one of the best values for $$$ out there. You have a 4 speed, fairly heavy B-body with somewhat sticky tires. Do you really want to pump $500 or maybe $1000 into that 8 3/4 and wonder if it will last when you can put a new Dana in for $2k and be done with it?
Your car makes enough power to hurt that little 8 3/4 so you'll have to spend money upgrading it anyway.
Smallblock automatic in an A-body would be a different story.

Sheldon

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My sons Dart runs 11.40's at about 3600 lbs and has had the same 8-3/4 in it since 1997. My 63 runs 11.50's and has had it's 8-3/4 in it for 2 years since I got it on the road. Both are stock rears with stock axles but I did put a Detroit Locke center section in mine. And both are auto's with Dynamic 9.5 converter's. It should hold up fine in a low 12 high 11 car and even better with after market axle's. Ron

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I forgot you have a 4-speed as I agree that is alot harder on the rear then an auto. Ron

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Ron: Do you check your axles for twisting once in awhile?

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