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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: BradH]
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10/28/11 10:57 AM
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Seaford, Va
Kindafast
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I have been reading all these post and I like at the cars that have been posted. Got me thinking about the " good old days " Back when I was a teenager if you had a low 13 or high 12 car you were the baddest dude on the street. Now I have a high 10 car and am just one of the masses. Times sure changed in the performance business.
6.50 @105.26
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: W5Duster436]
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10/28/11 11:10 AM
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Posts: 235
Glendale, AZ
Dave W
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Glendale, AZ
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I haven't had a chance to get mine to the track yet but have logged about 700 street miles this year. It should run high 9's
ShadyDell 436ci W5 - 700hp and 4spd
Original full interior plus cage
Billet Specialty Streetlites 15x10's rear w/MT 275/60/15's and front runners on 3.5 rims
8 3/4 w/4.30's
Do you have any more pictures? Your ride is awesome!!!
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: W5Duster436]
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10/28/11 11:20 AM
10/28/11 11:20 AM
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Posts: 24,562
Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Brookeville, Md
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very cool car, love the color. Glad you didn't change it. What suspension? It will be hard to run 9's on 275's, leaf springs and cal-trac's.
Yes it has mono-leafs and caltracs and drag radials. There sure seem to be a lot faster cars than high 9's running this setup? Doesn't Andy run this as well? I am pretty certain his has been mid 9's.
One way to find out...go and row the gears 
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: 6bblFLASH]
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10/28/11 11:45 AM
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Posts: 4,319
Puyallup, WA
StealthWedge67
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Puyallup, WA
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Obviously what everyone sees as a "real" or "true" street car can vary greatly and is a personal preference.
Pump gas
3.23 gear with Trutrac LS
1800 stall (stock converter)
Full interior
235/70/14, 255/60/15
No headers – full exhaust
3rd gear by 18 mph
Will drive very nicely at 1000 to 1100 rpm in third gear at 20 mph
No part throttle kick down
Fairly smooth shifting fully auto tranny
Manual steering
Drive to the track 65 miles one way without a tool, get directly in the staging lane without opening the hood or trunk, and run 11.70s at 118+ mph. Personally I prefer a better power to weight ratio (more mph) than a 60 ft. On the street, from anything other than a dead stop, the higher power to weight car is faster.
I think I drive it a lot (when it is running), but it actually comes out to about 2000 mile per year. It actually sits a lot in June, July and August between being too busy, or too hot.
I really would not change anything. The only thing that I’m wishing were different: the electric fuel pump (you can hear it at an idle) and the car drones a bit under load in the 1800 to 2100 rpm range.
That is freaking AWSOME!!!! 
How the H--L did you get such outstanding power at such a low RPM??? 
Please share 
Russ's last name is Dudek....... So it's in his blood. I think god blessed those Dudek boys with a 2-second advantage at birth. Seems everything they touch is at least 2 ticks faster than it should be by everyone elses standards.
LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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10/28/11 12:21 PM
10/28/11 12:21 PM
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Posts: 11,684
W. Kentucky
justinp61
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I Live Here
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W. Kentucky
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Here's mine.
69 Dart, 3260# with me in it, bolt on glass hood, glass front bumper, everything else is steel, all factory glass, heater, wipers, factory dash, radio that doens't work. The interior is stock except for the Kirkey seats, 6 point roll bar and shifter. It has the sub frame connectors, mini tubbed with a narrowed Dana with 4.10 gears, driveshaft look, aftermarket disks on both ends. Stock front suspension, split monos with Cal-tracs on the rear. It's powered by a pump gas 408, 10.9-1 compression, a Hughes flat solid cam, 260/264 @ .050, .628/.633 lift, ported Edelbrocks, Victor 340 intake with a Bigs 950 HP, 727 with a 9.5" Edge Racing converter that flashes 6000. Weld 15 X 3 in the front with 165 radials and 15 X 10 in the back.
So far it's ran 6.57 in the 1/8 with a 1.38 60' on 325/50 M/T E/T Street Radials. It goes straight as a string and pickes the front tires up about 8-10" and carries them out about 10' before sitting down.
I drive it quiet a bit weather permitting, it doesn't handle to bad. I wouldn't want to jump in it and go a long distnace, but it wasn't built for that.
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: 67Satty]
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10/28/11 01:19 PM
10/28/11 01:19 PM
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Posts: 701
Southern Maryland
preddy
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Southern Maryland
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I've been walking that line between street car and race car for years. There's 2 areas where I've had to make some compromises to keep it streetable: fuel and cooling. It's been a volume and reliability problem for the fuel. I'm not talking octane issues with the fuel. Keep your compression at a sane level and that shouldn't be a problem. I've been stranded two or three times by Holley Blue pumps failing. The solution is to put a rear sump in my stock tank and get the pump lower, I know that but I'm not there yet. I tried a Clay Smith mechanical pump and thought that solved my problem until last Sunday when I was racing and the mechanical pump wasn't delivering enough fuel. I went 11.57 on the mechanical, 11.05 @ 122 on the electric... to help it hook, my timing was retarded about 6 degree so I probably would have run low 10.90s with the timing where I normally keep it. I set it up so I can switch fuel pumps back and forth in about 5 minutes and I'm back to the electric for now...
The cooling issue "was" the other big problem for me. Sitting in traffic with an RB stroker was not fun. I found myself staring at the water temp gauge a lot. I tried flex fans, clutch fans, electric fans, pushers, pullers, different shrouds, etc. I finally solved it this Summer by getting my stock radiator re-cored and going to an SRT8 dual electric fan. A mechanical fan with a shroud would probably be fine with the re-cored radiator but, for racing, I want the electric fans to control engine temp between rounds. I can generally keep it cool on just one fan but if I get stuck in a half hour traffic jam like I did in Ocean City, MD 3 weeks ago, I can really keep the beast cool on 2. I also have a Moroso electric water pump. The kind that looks like heater motor. For short cruises I'm fine with that. For periods of extended street use, I'll change fan belts and use the stock mechanical water pump. Takes a few minutes to convert back and forth.
I've driven the car 60 miles each way to a car show several times. I won't lie, I have trailered it as well. It's got a full interior, AM/FM/CD/MP3 player, 4 speakers, no heater, working wipers, all working lights, full 3" exhaust with tail pipes, I put an 8 point roll bar in it so I can run 10s legally, I have a spool with 3:91s, Strange axles, 5/8 studs, 8 3/4 - 489 case, and it runs on 93 octane pump gas. I mix 110 purple 50/50 with pump gas when I race it just to be safe. M/T 10" slicks for racing. Radial street tires for the street.
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: Kindafast]
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10/28/11 02:40 PM
10/28/11 02:40 PM
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Posts: 701
Southern Maryland
preddy
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Southern Maryland
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And Joe (Preddy) is one very nice guy. Always a pleasure to talk with him at the track and always willing to help you out. Ron
With a name like Joe he should be a nice guy. We all are.
Joe
Hah! Ron, you're too kind... I guess it depends who you ask  my wife might disagree! 
Joe, I couldn't agree more...
Joe
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: preddy]
#1102622
10/28/11 04:21 PM
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Posts: 2,826
NY usa
540challenger
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NY usa
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I've been walking that line between street car and race car for years. There's 2 areas where I've had to make some compromises to keep it streetable: fuel and cooling. It's been a volume and reliability problem for the fuel. I'm not talking octane issues with the fuel. Keep your compression at a sane level and that shouldn't be a problem. I've been stranded two or three times by Holley Blue pumps failing. The solution is to put a rear sump in my stock tank and get the pump lower, I know that but I'm not there yet. I tried a Clay Smith mechanical pump and thought that solved my problem until last Sunday when I was racing and the mechanical pump wasn't delivering enough fuel. I went 11.57 on the mechanical, 11.05 @ 122 on the electric... to help it hook, my timing was retarded about 6 degree so I probably would have run low 10.90s with the timing where I normally keep it. I set it up so I can switch fuel pumps back and forth in about 5 minutes and I'm back to the electric for now...
The cooling issue "was" the other big problem for me. Sitting in traffic with an RB stroker was not fun. I found myself staring at the water temp gauge a lot. I tried flex fans, clutch fans, electric fans, pushers, pullers, different shrouds, etc. I finally solved it this Summer by getting my stock radiator re-cored and going to an SRT8 dual electric fan. A mechanical fan with a shroud would probably be fine with the re-cored radiator but, for racing, I want the electric fans to control engine temp between rounds. I can generally keep it cool on just one fan but if I get stuck in a half hour traffic jam like I did in Ocean City, MD 3 weeks ago, I can really keep the beast cool on 2. I also have a Moroso electric water pump. The kind that looks like heater motor. For short cruises I'm fine with that. For periods of extended street use, I'll change fan belts and use the stock mechanical water pump. Takes a few minutes to convert back and forth.
I've driven the car 60 miles each way to a car show several times. I won't lie, I have trailered it as well. It's got a full interior, AM/FM/CD/MP3 player, 4 speakers, no heater, working wipers, all working lights, full 3" exhaust with tail pipes, I put an 8 point roll bar in it so I can run 10s legally, I have a spool with 3:91s, Strange axles, 5/8 studs, 8 3/4 - 489 case, and it runs on 93 octane pump gas. I mix 110 purple 50/50 with pump gas when I race it just to be safe. M/T 10" slicks for racing. Radial street tires for the street.
SRT 8 dual fan you say 
Do you have any pics and know the dimensions of the fans, also what did you use to control the fans?
Thanks
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: 540challenger]
#1102623
10/28/11 04:48 PM
10/28/11 04:48 PM
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Posts: 701
Southern Maryland
preddy
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super stock
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Posts: 701
Southern Maryland
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SRT 8 dual fan you say
Do you have any pics and know the dimensions of the fans, also what did you use to control the fans?
Yeah, an SRT8 fan fits almost perfectly over my 26" stock radiator. I got a used fan for $50. I had to make brackets to hold it but that was easy. Tell you what, I don't want to hijack 67Satty's thread, so I'll make a new thread and post some pics there.
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: 67Satty]
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10/28/11 05:00 PM
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Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Thumperdart
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I Live Here
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Street car means different things to different people so here`s my "street driven" car; 72 dart 3200 lbs race ready 470 stroker(400 block) w/12.1.1 comp. and I have driven on straight 91 but now I mix 50/50 w/110 trick leaded no back seat,heater,wipers etc. 3 1/2" ft`s 12" rear pro-stars and Hoosier qtp`s out back 3 1/2" pipes coming off of my fenderwell headers solid roller w/.680-.660 lift and 275-280 dur. @ .050 1050 dommy and an 8" vert feeding 4.11`s to the 8 3/4 rear...... driven hard and often and it`s being freshoned as we speak w/more head work and a new best 9.78 et to follow...........street car? you decide.......... 
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: 72demon416]
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10/28/11 09:14 PM
10/28/11 09:14 PM
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Posts: 4,084
Indiana
W5Duster436
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Indiana
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Rick, Your car IS sleeper badness! You need to post an engine pic for all... Quote:
My car could certainly be faster and run 9's if the car went on a little diet and I took racing more seriously, but I'm happy to run 10's or 11 whatevers on pump gas with my 440 W5 -and look like it should run 14's. I have a lot more fun keeping everything looking stock and driving the car a couple nights a week and every weekend as weather permits as opposed to being a race only ride that I would get very little seat time in 
'70 Duster - SDSS 436 W5 4spd (Gone)
'71 Dodge D100
'70 Dodge W100
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: 67Satty]
#1102628
10/28/11 11:15 PM
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Posts: 2,405
Ambridge, Pa.
rickraw
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Ambridge, Pa.
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1971 demon. 440sb, w9's by shadydell, 11-1 comp, 730 solid roller, 1050 prosystem dominator, m1 intake, 904 tf w/brake, ford 9" w/456 pro gear, 33x18.5x 15 et streets. have 2 seats, working wipers, horn, no heater, full lighting. best et-9.61@137.91. pump gas engine. i drive my car about 1100 miles during the summer & hit the strip a few times also. checked milage- 10.5. stay safe, seeya.
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Re: Street/Strip Car Street Usage
[Re: rickraw]
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10/29/11 12:32 AM
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Posts: 2,414
St. Croix, US Virgin Islands
David_in_St_Croi
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St. Croix, US Virgin Islands
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We use our 70 RR regularly. Has a 452 built by Performance Only, which has been a great engine, Tim Hyatt Mcleod based Soft Lock (Great Clutch, Tim is the man!!!!), S-60 with 4.30's and tru-trac. 23 spline foru speed, good thing I have the Hyatt clutch slipper clutch. Unfortunately, it just ate a a lifter but until then was my daily driver. Suspension wise it has 1.00 inch torsion bars due to our roads, stock rear springs and standard replacement shocks. Manual steering, manual brakes. Pulled the heater box to save weight and give room under the dash. I loved dropping the exhaust, bolting on the collector extensions, loosening up the clutch, throwing the slicks and jack into the boot and head down to the track on its own tires under its own power (didn't always come home under its own power  ) . Always impressed people at what it would run as the car is well known on St. Croix as a regular driver. AT the track:  Not afraid to drive it:  
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