clutch for Lenco
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is here someone who uses some other brand clutch for Lenco tranny? Hydraulic pedal ones? I heard that Lenco`s own clutch needs to grind surfaces after some runs, it needs special grinding machine and so on... What do guys who use Lenco in street/strip cars? Is there some alternative or not?
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Re: clutch for Lenco
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what do you mean by zero out ?
Adjusting the ring height back to the original setting. As the clutch slips it wears the disc so you adjust the ring height this way you can keep track of your pressures.
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what do you mean by zero out ?
Adjusting the ring height back to the original setting. As the clutch slips it wears the disc so you adjust the ring height this way you can keep track of your pressures.
Donald
thanks Donald. sorry to get off the original topic. dont they have dual friction clutches that can be used with the lenco that need less maintenance?
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Georg, Are you considering to run a CS1,CS2 type Lenco or are you referring to the 1200 Street model ?
Think it would make a big difference on clutch selection, although cost will be similar, something like a Bonafante will be around $3500. But will need maintenance/checking, but less so on a mainly street application. Then again, what sort of HP you looking to put through it.
A bruno type Lenco, with a converter, as mentioned earlier is another option to consider
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Georg, Are you considering to run a CS1,CS2 type Lenco or are you referring to the 1200 Street model ?
Think it would make a big difference on clutch selection, although cost will be similar, something like a Bonafante will be around $3500. But will need maintenance/checking, but less so on a mainly street application. Then again, what sort of HP you looking to put through it.
A bruno type Lenco, with a converter, as mentioned earlier is another option to consider
Actually CS1, CS2 or 1200 model choose is still pending. My motor makes around 850hp as naturally aspirated right now but future plan is to use turbocharger...so chooseing is hard. Probably its gonna be CS1 or CS2. Lenco is far not cheap tranny and I want to make correct pick up first time so I can use it later on if motor picks up more horses
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Re: clutch for Lenco
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Georg, You can put any type of clutch in front of a Lenco that they make an input shaft for. You need to pick a clutch for whatever you're mostly using the car for. If street, you need a street clutch, if street/strip, or strip only, pick a clutch designed for your HP and car weight. The CS1 and CS2 will take anything you can throw at it, up to 3000HP for the CS1. The CS2 is a slightly smaller case if you have space limitations but will still handle 2500hp. The ST1200 is just that, a street version thats rated at 1200hp. They use aluminum cases instead of mag like the race versions and 8620 material for the gears instead of 9310. The 8620 is the same material used in most ring and pinions and is a little harder for better wear on the street. Thats how Lenco can get the cost down a little for the street version. One thing to consider is heat buildup with the Lenco if you are doing a lot of cruising, I know my CS2 doesn't have any provisions for fluid cooling although the ST1200 might. BTW, I'm running a Bruno convertor drive in my altered and honestly think it would be streetable if I were to put it in a bodied car. You might want to look at a Lencodrive also, roughly same size as a glide in 2-speed configuration but you have the flexibility of adding more standard CS2 sections to it to make a 3-4 or even 5-speed. All it takes is dollars.....
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Georg, You can put any type of clutch in front of a Lenco that they make an input shaft for. You need to pick a clutch for whatever you're mostly using the car for. If street, you need a street clutch, if street/strip, or strip only, pick a clutch designed for your HP and car weight. The CS1 and CS2 will take anything you can throw at it, up to 3000HP for the CS1. The CS2 is a slightly smaller case if you have space limitations but will still handle 2500hp. The ST1200 is just that, a street version thats rated at 1200hp. They use aluminum cases instead of mag like the race versions and 8620 material for the gears instead of 9310. The 8620 is the same material used in most ring and pinions and is a little harder for better wear on the street. Thats how Lenco can get the cost down a little for the street version. One thing to consider is heat buildup with the Lenco if you are doing a lot of cruising, I know my CS2 doesn't have any provisions for fluid cooling although the ST1200 might. BTW, I'm running a Bruno convertor drive in my altered and honestly think it would be streetable if I were to put it in a bodied car. You might want to look at a Lencodrive also, roughly same size as a glide in 2-speed configuration but you have the flexibility of adding more standard CS2 sections to it to make a 3-4 or even 5-speed. All it takes is dollars.....
Thanks a LOT Ronny for detailed answer! One thing I dont understand about Lencos and that is - why the hell they cost so much!? They are actually very simple transmissions...
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Georg, I agree, they are simple transmissions, but they are pretty much bulletproof, you can spend almost as much on a Powerglide that will handle close to the same HP but you would be rebuilding it every 10-15 passes. A better source you might look at is: http://www.insidetopalcohol.com/forumdisplay.php?13-NRE-X-1-Heads-Free-ClassifiedsGot your PM, going to be out most of the day today, but when you get a chance give me more info about your car and what type of usage you intend to do with it. I'll try to help any way I can.
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I use B&J trannys,same strength as Lenco. We resuface the clutch disc and floaters every run! Use to have portable clutch grinder that we took to the track, but it is not accurate enough. Bought this 11K surface grinder to do the whole clutch assy including the pressure plate and flywheel after every race. We would put together enough clutch packs for the race before we leave the shop. The clutch grinder. All the fixtures to maintain your clutch. Tool to check my work. It isn't cheap to run a clutch on the race track.
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