Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: deaks] #1092057
10/11/11 11:44 AM
10/11/11 11:44 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,158
PA.
pittsburghracer Offline
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Offline
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,158
PA.
Without knowing before and after flow numbers on your heads its hard to know were you stand right now. Same with the intake manifold. You wouldn't believe what is available with a little porting on the intake but to do it the proper way (bolting it to the head on the flow bench) is very time consuming but well worth the effort. It is very common to have a head flowing 300cfm knocked down to 260 or worse because of it.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: deaks] #1092058
10/11/11 11:45 AM
10/11/11 11:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,295
U.S.
M
moparniac Offline
master
moparniac  Offline
master
M

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,295
U.S.
Bob was 100lbs heavier and ran the Indy single 4 intake(just sayin) Bob was also 500ci


Mopar Performance
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092059
10/11/11 11:56 AM
10/11/11 11:56 AM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,826
NY usa
5
540challenger Offline
master
540challenger  Offline
master
5

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,826
NY usa
Quote:

Quote:

Can you lighten your car up some? 2 tenths is a lot at your level. Probably another 60 horsepower.


I probably could by going w/glass doors and deck lid and lexan but it`s a street car first that I race every so often.


What about going with an aftermarket front end to save some weight. My alterkation is great i racked up over 1000 street miles in just 3 months and love it. Not cheap but alot of weight loss and makes working on the car that much easier.

Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: moparniac] #1092060
10/11/11 11:56 AM
10/11/11 11:56 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 3,210
robin hood country
deaks Offline
master
deaks  Offline
master

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 3,210
robin hood country
The car before that one, dart sport 451.
Mick


69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: deaks] #1092061
10/11/11 01:14 PM
10/11/11 01:14 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
More good points..............taking out my second batt. and pass. seat alone would net me about 70lbs. and a lightened ft. end would be awesome but the funds are low along w/work so, I`m trying to go w/what I have. I can have the heads flowed at Pettis and work the intake myself if need be and a t-ram has been on my mind for a while also but that 9.78 needs to be the same combo or all bets are off. Thankxxx..........


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092062
10/11/11 02:02 PM
10/11/11 02:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,295
U.S.
M
moparniac Offline
master
moparniac  Offline
master
M

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,295
U.S.
You don't run radials do you?


Mopar Performance
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: moparniac] #1092063
10/11/11 02:32 PM
10/11/11 02:32 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
No, I`m running the 29x13.5 qtp`s...........So, no one has any photos or another site I can check out?

Last edited by Thumperdart; 10/11/11 02:48 PM.

72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092064
10/11/11 03:35 PM
10/11/11 03:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,439
Val-haul-ass... eventually
B
BradH Offline
Taking time off to work on my car
BradH  Offline
Taking time off to work on my car
B

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 15,439
Val-haul-ass... eventually
Quote:

... other than the tech archive photos, does any one have any otther photos I can check out or another post I can view?



Where are the Tech Archive pics? I have some stuff that Dwayne Porter posted years ago on E heads, but don't know if they're the same pics.

Here's one (attached)...

Last edited by BradH; 10/11/11 03:38 PM.
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092065
10/11/11 03:54 PM
10/11/11 03:54 PM
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,030
ohio
6
67mprfan Offline
super stock
67mprfan  Offline
super stock
6

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,030
ohio
Quote:

that 9.78 needs to be the same combo or all bets are off. Thankxxx..........





When the race ....Good luck


71 demon stock stroke 440/indy ez-1 running 10.10 @ 132.14 mph in the 1/4 and 6.36 @ 107.46 mph in the 1/8 not in the same weekend but It did it then I sold it.
67 Belvedere that worked it's way in the 10's
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: BradH] #1092066
10/11/11 04:12 PM
10/11/11 04:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Quote:

Quote:

... other than the tech archive photos, does any one have any otther photos I can check out or another post I can view?



Where are the Tech Archive pics? I have some stuff that Dwayne Porter posted years ago on E heads, but don't know if they're the same pics.

Here's one (attached)...


Those are the photos I was refering to.........Thankxxx............


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: 67mprfan] #1092067
10/11/11 04:13 PM
10/11/11 04:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Quote:

Quote:

that 9.78 needs to be the same combo or all bets are off. Thankxxx..........





When the race ....Good luck


No race just me gettin a 9.78 slip then lots of `s to follow.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092068
10/11/11 05:48 PM
10/11/11 05:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,170
Westbury, NY
B
bumps440 Offline
super gas
bumps440  Offline
super gas
B

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,170
Westbury, NY
tell me more about what you have ?
street car? 12 to 1? More would help power, but!! what do you run for gas?
what ratio rockers?
definately would help with more ratio.
what gear and RPM at the stripe?
what Dia headers and how long and also collectors? dia and length?

tuning helps a lot more than most people think.
its called volumetric efficiency.
when it all gets in its tuned lengths, its like a freight train at the big end

and yes a bit of weight out will always help.

Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: bumps440] #1092069
10/11/11 06:01 PM
10/11/11 06:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Quote:

tell me more about what you have ?
street car? 12 to 1? More would help power, but!! what do you run for gas?
what ratio rockers?
definately would help with more ratio.
what gear and RPM at the stripe?
what Dia headers and how long and also collectors? dia and length?

tuning helps a lot more than most people think.
its called volumetric efficiency.
when it all gets in its tuned lengths, its like a freight train at the big end

and yes a bit of weight out will always help.


Street car 12.1 comp. 50/50 mix of 91/110 trick. 1.5 harland sharp rockers,2" primary tube fenderwell headers and shift bet 7000-7200 average and trap about 6800-7000+. The freshen, better charging and a proper fuel system will get me there OR very close.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092070
10/11/11 06:36 PM
10/11/11 06:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,295
U.S.
M
moparniac Offline
master
moparniac  Offline
master
M

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,295
U.S.
dom my buddies SBC is right about the same increments as yours in the 1/8th but he is going 134 and change in the back half and his best is an 82 so far on his new combo(on motor/drag radials)! I think it's gonna be a good challenge for ya and hope ya do it


Mopar Performance
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: moparniac] #1092071
10/11/11 07:04 PM
10/11/11 07:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,542
BROOK PARK, OH
WILD BILL Offline
Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL  Offline
Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,542
BROOK PARK, OH
Here's all the pics I took of when Scott did My Eddy heads











They ended up flowing 319.5 @ 600 and 700 lift.

Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: moparniac] #1092072
10/11/11 07:45 PM
10/11/11 07:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Quote:

dom my buddies SBC is right about the same increments as yours in the 1/8th but he is going 134 and change in the back half and his best is an 82 so far on his new combo(on motor/drag radials)! I think it's gonna be a good challenge for ya and hope ya do it


After my 9.98 I went to Fontana after new valve springs and went a best there of 10.03@ 134+ but still had fuel issues. It will be a challenge and that`s what makes a competator like myself thrive. Thankxxx for the photos Bill..........man, he totally cleaned out the exhaust.... Do you have any port opening and other dimensions Bill?


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: Thumperdart] #1092073
10/11/11 08:14 PM
10/11/11 08:14 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,170
Westbury, NY
B
bumps440 Offline
super gas
bumps440  Offline
super gas
B

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,170
Westbury, NY
You are right in the ball park for shift points and RPMs for that size motor. I shift at 7000-7200 and trap at 7500 with a 446 ( shows no signs of laying over)
more compression would help, but I dont recommed it if you will street it a lot. I would definately go with Harland sharp 1.6s, could net you around 25-30 HP
have you experimented with valve lash changes?
what carb? What manifold?
spacers?
2" is the right header, but I would imagine it is a bit too long being fenderwells. would want 32-33" long with 3.5 collector around 16-18 "

YOU are pretty close to maxed out there, but there is ALWAYS more to be found.
look at the suggestions and see what you could do.

Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: bumps440] #1092074
10/11/11 08:20 PM
10/11/11 08:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,542
BROOK PARK, OH
WILD BILL Offline
Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL  Offline
Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,542
BROOK PARK, OH
Not off the top of my head.

I'll look at my notes when I get home tonight and see if I can dig up any more info

Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: bumps440] #1092075
10/11/11 08:45 PM
10/11/11 08:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Quote:

You are right in the ball park for shift points and RPMs for that size motor. I shift at 7000-7200 and trap at 7500 with a 446 ( shows no signs of laying over)
more compression would help, but I dont recommed it if you will street it a lot. I would definately go with Harland sharp 1.6s, could net you around 25-30 HP
have you experimented with valve lash changes?
what carb? What manifold?
spacers?
2" is the right header, but I would imagine it is a bit too long being fenderwells. would want 32-33" long with 3.5 collector around 16-18 "

YOU are pretty close to maxed out there, but there is ALWAYS more to be found.
look at the suggestions and see what you could do.


I agree about a better header but not yet. I have tried different lash settings but not at the track. 1050 dommy w/an adapter and a 1/2" wood four hole spacer on top of a Victor intake w/a bit of plenum work.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Edelbrock rpm head questions..................... [Re: WILD BILL] #1092076
10/11/11 08:47 PM
10/11/11 08:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline OP
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline OP
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Thankxxx Bill..........mostly interested in p-rod pinch width and ex. opening #`s.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1