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CH4B is on my mild 440.

do this..add the cam t-chain set, headers, intake (CH4B) carb of choice (no 750 eddy's) and run it. See how you like it. Then if you want to upgrade to EFI do it. I think you'll be happy. A small cammed 440 is going to put you back in the seat.
A good cheap build (and I've done a few) is a new t-chain set, summit 488 cam, CH4b intake, holley 750 carb, headers and MP electronic ing. Makes for an easy 13 second b-body. Ran 12.90's w/ the same set-up w/ 3.91's and a 2800 stall. Non-ported 906 heads, cheap headers and 2.5 exhaust.

With a mild cam and stock heads, IMO a used CH4B is your best bet if you're using a carb or throttle body injection. Now if you decide to do a big of a cam and a set of better flowing heads, consider an edelbrock victor efi intake and do a port efi system instead. Good, even flow to all cylinders and port efi, this is where you see the real gains over carb as you don't have the wet flow issues like with carb or throttle body efi on a cold start. Also you have minimal cylinder to cylinder a/f variations with a setup like that. Costs a little more, but if modern style turn key driveability and response is what you're after, IMO it's the best choice.

1. Think long and hard about what you want the car to do/be when it's done. Be VERY honest with yourself or you won't be happy with it and will throw good money after bad to make it right.

2. Research what it will take to achieve your goal. Researching now will keep you from throwing good money after bad (see a pattern? As Moltke said "A plan is nothing. To plan is everything").

3. Build the car to meet your goal.

4. If your goal is a stock 'cruiser' and you have a cast iron intake, I would suggest using what you have. Why spend the money on a CH-4B which is EXACTLY the same as your stock intake except that it's cast in aluminum? Bear in mind that iron (engine) and aluminum (intake) expand at different rates as they heat up and cool. This differential will cause sealing problems that you will avoid with the iron intake.

5. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with fuel injection. FOR ME, I'm not interested in injection because I understand carburetors and don't feel that a laptop computer should be required to tune my hot rod. Also, I don't mind taking a wrench to my car now and again to keep it running right. It's my hobby...

How can some of you say the factory iron intake is as good as the Eddy intakes ? The worst Eddy intake made over 25 more hp then the stock intake. I will take the Eddy intake any day over the stock intake unless I ran a class where you cant like Stock Eliminator. Ron

Danan, the CH4B is not just an aluminum copy of a stock intake. It does flow noticeably better than the stock intake.

Why not a swap meet torquer? My 66 coronet has a stock 1968 30k mile 383 with a new chain and a used 600 edelbrock headers and 2.5 tti exhaust 727 3.23s with tall rear tires.This car has great throttle response and loves the freeway with approx 2000 rpm at a 65 mph cruise,just tap the throttle and easily gain 20 mph for passing,or onramp runs.Anyway the torquer was a $25 dollar swap meet find and the only reason I used it was because I already had it.Actually I cant belive how well this thing runs for what it is,a cheap driver.

Holley Street Dominator and a throttlebody injection system will make a great driver....cold weather, hot weather, higher altitude, lower altitude, whatever. It may cost more up front, but for a street car, it will be an improvement all the way around....

Years ago, I had a 69 GTX. The 440 was stock. When the factory carb. went bad, I had it replaced with the Edelbrock Torquer and a 780 Holley. That was the best performance money I ever spent on that car. It really came alive with that combination.
I don't understand why so many of you are still having problems with ethanol gasoline. When racing season is over, around the end of November, I park my car and add a can of Stabil to it. After that I usually start the car about once a month and let it run for a few minutes. The 750 D.P. has been on the car for over 16 years now, and never any problems. In my mowers and weedeater, I do use non ethanol gas for them.

I have always read and heard the Edelbrock "Performer"- NOT RPM- does not make as good of power as an OEM 4bbl iron intake from the performance era. I have also read that although the Weiand "Action Plus" is a competitor to the Performer- the Action Plus makes more power than a stock intake AND the Performer. The Action Plus is still available new.

I just switched from a performer rpm to a street dominator for clearance reasons...


So if anyone is looking for a performer rpm..

Thanks for the replies guys....I have a lot of options to think of here.

I talked with my dad and he thinks he wants go "stocker"-ish at this point and just run it. If he likes it, he'll stay with it. If not, we will go from that baseline.

I think we will spring for a bigger cam though for some added torque, I will have to narrow that down and see...

This means stock heads (as stated), HP manifolds, etc etc.

He does have a gently used DUI ignition he acquired, so he will be using that...

As far as intakes go...hood clearance is a concern...

So stock iron,
Torker
Holly dominator intake,
or something similar may be a consideration. Jury is still out.

However, we do have the iron intake (actually we have several)....

The point is...I am getting a lot of ideas here. Thanks for the input.

Keep it coming!

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