Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
[Re: Hooligan]
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10/04/11 07:44 AM
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do yourself a favor and lead the joints,keep body filler to a minimum, Eastwood.com has plenty of suppliies to accomplish this,....as far as paint prep, you'll get 12 answers to that one question,...but I'll recommend what I prefer, strip the car to bare metal, etch-prime with Dupont VARI-PRIME, I would double coat it, do not sand, then coat with Dupont 2K ureahane primer, block sand, recoat, block until straight, paint......
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Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
[Re: gtx6970]
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10/04/11 10:53 AM
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Bill,....I've used them, If anyone haz had reactions later in their paint, I would think it was poor prep of the area, if you don't leach out the tinning butter (acid) it could come back to bite you later, esp if you open up the solder with a file/sandpaper, and leave the surface coarse, acetone/laquer thinner the lead joint,...even factory lead joints if they've been ground/sanded apon Mike
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Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
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10/04/11 08:39 PM
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do yourself a favor and lead the joints,keep body filler to a minimum, Eastwood.com has plenty of suppliies to accomplish this,....as far as paint prep, you'll get 12 answers to that one question,...but I'll recommend what I prefer, strip the car to bare metal, etch-prime with Dupont VARI-PRIME, I would double coat it, do not sand, then coat with Dupont 2K ureahane primer, block sand, recoat, block until straight, paint......
I agree; lead does not shrink.
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Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
[Re: PAINT IT BLACK]
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10/05/11 12:38 PM
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If things are still moving around cutting it flat & buffing it out is only temporary.... If your patient I prefer to cut it open & wait for solvents to gas out.... Plastic filler moves allot less than primer...
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Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
[Re: Hooligan]
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10/06/11 02:31 AM
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I can't answer the shrinking question other than mixed properly,right temp and not put on too thick, then you shouldn't have a problem. I used fiberglass anywhere I weld after grinding to fill in any holes, pores, etc... then grind it mostly back off before filler. I use epoxy or etch primer before I apply any fillers.
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Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
[Re: PAINT IT BLACK]
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10/06/11 07:14 AM
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What about a year and a half of sitting in a shop with varying degrees of 30F to 120F?
It wasn't cut while sitting there, but shouldn't that about do it for gassing out?
I have watched what was a perfect black paint job become not as perfect just sitting there. I'm almost done with reassembly, so I'm hoping I can go back and do spot buffing to get it perfect-ish again...
Fillers will continue to "move" for decades, it will be more pronounced on dark coloured cars, that's why I always stress complete replacement of a panel, or skilled METAL reworking of a panel with no fillers,....grafts/patch panels, and bondo carved cars will come back to bite you years later,...just a matter of time
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Re: Do all body fillers shrink?
[Re: gtx6970]
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10/08/11 03:12 AM
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Mike, have you actually used any of the eastwoods body solder?
I've heard of horror stories with paint reactions to it recently.
I used their lead-tin based solder, no problems at all.
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