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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: Steve Barton]
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09/29/11 12:54 AM
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I would think that 1 arm is hanging up and pushing sideways when you release the clutch... that pressure plate would have to go(or change the arm) 
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/29/11 01:08 AM
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I would think that 1 arm is hanging up and pushing
sideways when you release the clutch... that pressure
plate would have to go(or change the arm)
this is a new $2500.00 clutch ass.
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: Steve Barton]
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09/29/11 01:12 AM
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I would think that 1 arm is hanging up and pushing
sideways when you release the clutch... that pressure
plate would have to go(or change the arm)
this is a new $2500.00 clutch ass.
IMO... right now you have a $2500 piece of trash...
if that arm is hanging up and pushing on the slider
its going to cause havoc on any bearing
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/29/11 10:36 AM
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Can you loosen the bolt up for the pivot of that 3rd arm on the pressure plate and attempt to slide it inboard any?
Also a really dumb question (assuming with a slickshifted gearset and a $2500 clutch it's been done already), but have you centered the bellhousing to the crank?
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: Blusmbl]
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09/29/11 11:39 AM
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Can you loosen the bolt up for the pivot of that 3rd arm on the pressure plate and attempt to slide it inboard any?
Also a really dumb question (assuming with a slickshifted gearset and a $2500 clutch it's been done already), but have you centered the bellhousing to the crank?
Yes with in .004"
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: Steve Barton]
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09/29/11 09:41 PM
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Did you have any luck having the manufacturer take a look at your assembly.
It sure looks like the short lever is riding on the very edge of the to bearing and I cannot see how it wouldn't side load and cause your candlestick problems.
Any drag with clutch disengagement or anything or just when it's "broke". That's a Youngblood unit correct?
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: Steve Barton]
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09/29/11 10:13 PM
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Steve I would send these pics to Rob(it looks like one his plates) because it clearly has one lever too short.This is what is causing the retainer to break without a doubt  It is pushing the T.O.bearing off to one side and just plain breaking it off.I have a billet retainer for a 23 spline unit if you need one send me a PM  Gus 
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: 68shifter]
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09/30/11 12:12 AM
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Did you have any luck having the manufacturer take a look at your assembly.
It sure looks like the short lever is riding on the very edge of the to bearing and I cannot see how it wouldn't side load and cause your candlestick problems.
Any drag with clutch disengagement or anything or just when it's "broke". That's a Youngblood unit correct?
Yes it is robs clutch, he does not want me to send him the clutch back, his opinion is that the short arm has nothing to do with my problem but he is sending me a lever to make me happy.
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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09/30/11 12:23 AM
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Steve I would send these pics to Rob(it looks like one his plates) because it clearly has one lever too short.This is what is causing the retainer to break without a doubt It is pushing the T.O.bearing off to one side and just plain breaking it off.I have a billet retainer for a 23 spline unit if you need one send me a PM
Gus
I have sent all these pics and many more to Rob, He is standing his ground saying no way its my problem, he is sending me a lever so that I will be happy even though (it wont help me). I already have a billet retainer to put in this time,as well as a larger T,O bearing, thanks.
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: Steve Barton]
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09/30/11 09:11 AM
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Did you have any luck having the manufacturer take a look at your assembly.
It sure looks like the short lever is riding on the very edge of the to bearing and I cannot see how it wouldn't side load and cause your candlestick problems.
Any drag with clutch disengagement or anything or just when it's "broke". That's a Youngblood unit correct?
Yes it is robs clutch, he does not want me to send him the clutch back, his opinion is that the short arm has nothing to do with my problem but he is sending me a lever to make me happy.
He may not think it's causing the retainer to break but it is definitely an issue because the leverage with the shorter arm is different than the other 2 .
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Re: 4 spd 833 help, braking front bearing retainer.
[Re: 6PACMAC]
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09/30/11 11:41 AM
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How is your pilot bushing in the back of the crank?
Its a bearing style and it is perfect.
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