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Most economical method to lower a B-body #1083792 09/27/11 07:11 PM 09/27/11 07:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	I don't want to create a low rider, but just drop the car about 2". I know there are a lot of great options for replacement parts to really make the car handle (70 SuperBee), but is there a safe yet economical way to accomplish a 2" drop without spending $2500? Thanks in advance for the advice. -C

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083793 09/27/11 07:17 PM 09/27/11 07:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	Safe, low cost and 2" drop. I think you can pick 2 out of the three. For a 1" drop, turn down the T bars and get the rear springs re-worked by a local spring shop. Cutting down the bump stops would be helpful. A stiffer set of front bars would be nice to prevent bottoming but may not be strictly necessary. Cost <$1,000 even with new T bars. For 2" I really think you would need drop spindles and maybe flipped rear springs. I personally would worry about exhaust and oil pan bottoming with a 2" drop. Last edited by ahy; 09/27/11 07:24 PM.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ahy] #1083794 09/27/11 09:39 PM 09/27/11 09:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	14" low profile tires.... You didn't say it had to look good!

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: RodStRace] #1083795 09/27/11 10:29 PM 09/27/11 10:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	I was actually considering an 18" wheel and tire combo. Does anyone have the pan clearance issue that was noted? -C

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083796 09/27/11 10:43 PM 09/27/11 10:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	20 or 22" tires look much better. More seriously, what are your objectives? Handling, like the low look ect? I've got my 70 E lowered a little (probably 3/4") with 1" T bars and stiff shocks. My 17" tires are on the short side with 25" diameter. I have a Hemi pan which is about 1" deeper than stock and a K frame mounted skid plate to protect the pan. The skid plate has earned its keep. I've had to touch up the paint on it at least twice after meaningful contact. It is sometimes driven with "spirit" on real midwest roads.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ahy] #1083797 09/27/11 11:07 PM 09/27/11 11:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	I just like the wheels to fill the wheel well without too much space above the tire. I thought about the 26" wheels, but the 1/4" of rubber for tire was a detractor. Anyway - I also like the shorter side wall (45-50 aspect ratio) for steering response and with the newer tire tech they can actually make a nice riding tire. -Chad

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083798 09/27/11 11:28 PM 09/27/11 11:28 PM
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6bblFLASH master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,830 N.E. Ohio	Have my sister-in-law sit in it Sorry I could`nt resist 70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas 9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ! 2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1083799 09/27/11 11:56 PM 09/27/11 11:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083800 09/28/11 10:45 AM 09/28/11 10:45 AM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,042 colorado S savoy64 top fuel
savoy64 top fuel S Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,042 colorado	instead of softening up your ride get a set of roadrace torsion bars and back off a little on those--for the rear use a 1 inch spacer between the axle and spring perch----bob

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1083801 09/28/11 10:48 AM 09/28/11 10:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass DAYCLONA I Live Here
DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,157 Mass	Quote: Have my sister-in-law sit in it Sorry I could`nt resist Most economical way is to let the air out of the tires, to adjust ride height.... ...I couldn't help myself either, he did want the cheapest way to accomplish this...

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: DAYCLONA] #1083802 09/28/11 01:13 PM 09/28/11 01:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	The old trick, several forklift batteries in the trunk! Sorry, I couldn't help it. R.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: dogdays] #1083803 09/28/11 04:25 PM 09/28/11 04:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	i know that the magnum force 2" dropped leaf springs are just springs that dont have a much of a arch to them giving them that 2" u need...now got get them rearched!

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: dangina] #1083804 09/28/11 04:37 PM 09/28/11 04:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,451 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,451 So Cal	It's sort of tough to recommend without knowing: the tire diameters you have, your current gap/distance between the lower control arm bumpsptop and frame, and your k-frame and exhaust to ground clearance. Just lower the front T-bar down to drop the tops of the front wheel lips 1" from current height. Check LCA bump stop clearance. If the LCA bump stop gap is too small buy the Energy suspension flat poly bumpstops. In the rear buy Doctor Diff adjustable front spring hanger. That give you something like 1" or 2" drops I forgot how much the Doctor Diff hangers are, but I don't think that and the bump stops are too much money.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083805 09/28/11 04:44 PM 09/28/11 04:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada Black_Bee pro stock
Black_Bee pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada	For the front, I turned down my 1" torsion bars, and for the rear, I used some spring hangers that Mancini sells: http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/manciniracing20.html I got a 1.5-2" drop which is pretty much required if you want to run the larger wheels. Paul '69 Super Bee 383 EFI Turbo

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Black_Bee] #1083806 09/28/11 07:46 PM 09/28/11 07:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: For the front, I turned down my 1" torsion bars, and for the rear, I used some spring hangers that Mancini sells: http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/manciniracing20.html I got a 1.5-2" drop which is pretty much required if you want to run the larger wheels. If your ID picture is of the car which you did this too, then that is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083807 09/28/11 07:54 PM 09/28/11 07:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Not that major an operation to make some lowering blocks. Retains most of your ride. Some 2 1/2 inch wide heavy wall tubing the Height of which would be the distance that you want to drop the rear. 2 pieces about 6" long and drill press. Drill out one side a hole the diameter of the spring tie bolt head to sit in and drill a 5/16 inch hole directly opposite to install a short spring eye bolt to fit in the centering hole in the spring perch.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083808 09/29/11 12:35 AM 09/29/11 12:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada Black_Bee pro stock
Black_Bee pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada	Quote: Quote: For the front, I turned down my 1" torsion bars, and for the rear, I used some spring hangers that Mancini sells: http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/manciniracing20.html I got a 1.5-2" drop which is pretty much required if you want to run the larger wheels. If your ID picture is of the car which you did this too, then that is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks Before drop... looks pretty good. 6847262-before_drop.jpg (103 downloads) Paul '69 Super Bee 383 EFI Turbo

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Black_Bee] #1083809 09/29/11 12:35 AM 09/29/11 12:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada Black_Bee pro stock
Black_Bee pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada	After drop... much better! 6847263-after_drop.jpg (105 downloads) Paul '69 Super Bee 383 EFI Turbo

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Black_Bee] #1083810 09/29/11 12:42 AM 09/29/11 12:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada Black_Bee pro stock
Black_Bee pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,307 BC, Canada	FYI, that's a 295-40-18 on the rear. It's actually a bit taller than the 275-60-15s that I had on before, but for some reason, the gap with those 15s didn't look bad. Paul '69 Super Bee 383 EFI Turbo

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Black_Bee] #1083811 09/29/11 01:15 AM 09/29/11 01:15 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 305 5th and plum R redmist enthusiast
redmist enthusiast R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 305 5th and plum	Turn down torsion bars, and flip the factory hangers upside down.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: redmist] #1083812 09/29/11 07:05 AM 09/29/11 07:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,788 Greer, SC TooMany62s top fuel
TooMany62s top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,788 Greer, SC	Mancini sells lowering blocks for the rear. I used some on my '84 Dodge pick-up after I flipped the axle. They worked fine.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: redmist] #1083813 09/29/11 09:28 AM 09/29/11 09:28 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,913 new berlin wisconsin M Mr T2U master
Mr T2U master M Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,913 new berlin wisconsin	Quote: Turn down torsion bars, and flip the factory hangers upside down. this is what i did to my car. 17" wheels. 255/55/17 tires, stock 07 mustang GT tires. if you lower the torsion bars you MIGHT have problems of to much camber, top of tires leaning in. you can correct with problem solver bushings in the upper arms. also some people will caution you not to flip the rear hangers. this is because the bolt spacing is slightly different between the top and bottom bolts. you have to die grind the holes a tiny bit to make them fit. some people say this weakens a major structural area. i say poppycock. i did this on my 600+ci hemi car. i have driven it 50,000+ miles without any problems. also the warranty fix for dog tracking volaries was to install shims between the spring hanger and the mount. this weakens it much more than opening the holes a 1/8". 6847541-roadrunnerpics022.JPG (119 downloads) Last edited by Mr T2U; 09/29/11 09:30 AM.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Mr T2U] #1083814 10/27/11 11:42 PM 10/27/11 11:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Quote: Turn down torsion bars, and flip the factory hangers upside down. this is what i did to my car. 17" wheels. 255/55/17 tires, stock 07 mustang GT tires. if you lower the torsion bars you MIGHT have problems of to much camber, top of tires leaning in. you can correct with problem solver bushings in the upper arms. also some people will caution you not to flip the rear hangers. this is because the bolt spacing is slightly different between the top and bottom bolts. you have to die grind the holes a tiny bit to make them fit. some people say this weakens a major structural area. i say poppycock. i did this on my 600+ci hemi car. i have driven it 50,000+ miles without any problems. also the warranty fix for dog tracking volaries was to install shims between the spring hanger and the mount. this weakens it much more than opening the holes a 1/8". Any need to run special shocks with a 1-2" drop? -C

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083815 10/28/11 06:38 AM 10/28/11 06:38 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Turn down torsion bars, and flip the factory hangers upside down. this is what i did to my car. 17" wheels. 255/55/17 tires, stock 07 mustang GT tires. if you lower the torsion bars you MIGHT have problems of to much camber, top of tires leaning in. you can correct with problem solver bushings in the upper arms. also some people will caution you not to flip the rear hangers. this is because the bolt spacing is slightly different between the top and bottom bolts. you have to die grind the holes a tiny bit to make them fit. some people say this weakens a major structural area. i say poppycock. i did this on my 600+ci hemi car. i have driven it 50,000+ miles without any problems. also the warranty fix for dog tracking volaries was to install shims between the spring hanger and the mount. this weakens it much more than opening the holes a 1/8". Any need to run special shocks with a 1-2" drop? -C the bilstiens are valved for the lower height: http://www.hotchkis.net/rcd_shocks_dodge_b_e_body_4_pack_lowered_cars.html Quote: this is what i did to my car. 17" wheels. 255/55/17 tires, stock 07 mustang GT tires. if you lower the torsion bars you MIGHT have problems of to much camber, top of tires leaning in. you can correct with problem solver bushings in the upper arms. also some people will caution you not to flip the rear hangers. this is because the bolt spacing is slightly different between the top and bottom bolts. you have to die grind the holes a tiny bit to make them fit. some people say this weakens a major structural area. i say poppycock. i did this on my 600+ci hemi car. i have driven it 50,000+ miles without any problems. also the warranty fix for dog tracking volaries was to install shims between the spring hanger and the mount. this weakens it much more than opening the holes a 1/8". looks good! same rim and tire combo i'm goin with on my 71 runner - its a great to see what it'll look like - whats your rim backspacing? Last edited by dangina; 10/28/11 06:41 AM.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083816 10/28/11 06:42 AM 10/28/11 06:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Turn down torsion bars, and flip the factory hangers upside down. this is what i did to my car. 17" wheels. 255/55/17 tires, stock 07 mustang GT tires. if you lower the torsion bars you MIGHT have problems of to much camber, top of tires leaning in. you can correct with problem solver bushings in the upper arms. also some people will caution you not to flip the rear hangers. this is because the bolt spacing is slightly different between the top and bottom bolts. you have to die grind the holes a tiny bit to make them fit. some people say this weakens a major structural area. i say poppycock. i did this on my 600+ci hemi car. i have driven it 50,000+ miles without any problems. also the warranty fix for dog tracking volaries was to install shims between the spring hanger and the mount. this weakens it much more than opening the holes a 1/8". Any need to run special shocks with a 1-2" drop? -C the bilstiens are valved for the lower height: http://www.hotchkis.net/rcd_shocks_dodge_b_e_body_4_pack_lowered_cars.html

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083817 10/28/11 11:50 AM 10/28/11 11:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,989 Oregon	I covered this topic in my new B body book. New spring hangers from FFI or Mancini is the easy way to take care of the rear. You can also re-arch the springs or use a different spring. Dropped knuckles will work up front or turn down the torsion bars and re-align everything. Firm Feel can get you shorter shocks so they don't act as bump stops. There is a limit to how low you can go before you need to start spending some money to make it work.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: AndyF] #1083818 10/29/11 03:46 PM 10/29/11 03:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: I covered this topic in my new B body book. New spring hangers from FFI or Mancini is the easy way to take care of the rear. You can also re-arch the springs or use a different spring. Dropped knuckles will work up front or turn down the torsion bars and re-align everything. Firm Feel can get you shorter shocks so they don't act as bump stops. There is a limit to how low you can go before you need to start spending some money to make it work. What's this book you speak of as I am new the B-body crowd and migt have some interest? Also I just want there to be no gap from the top of the tire to the fender, nit slammed on the ground. -C

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Mr T2U] #1083819 11/12/11 10:09 PM 11/12/11 10:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan kilroy super stock
kilroy super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan	Quote: ...also some people will caution you not to flip the rear hangers. this is because the bolt spacing is slightly different between the top and bottom bolts. you have to die grind the holes a tiny bit to make them fit. some people say this weakens a major structural area.i say poppycock. ... I agree totally, I just did this to my car (flip the spring hangers) and the stock holes are over large and not a tight fight to the hanger bolts anyways, so the extra 1/8" grinding wont make a boo. Sorry about primer and the bad picks but I lost 2" in the butt. Here is the after pic. 6916530-1112111512.jpg (109 downloads) 1973 Charger, former SE, former auto I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: kilroy] #1083820 11/12/11 10:10 PM 11/12/11 10:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan kilroy super stock
kilroy super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan	I sorry about the crappy picture The Before pic. 6916532-0809111800.jpg (101 downloads) 1973 Charger, former SE, former auto I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083821 11/12/11 10:48 PM 11/12/11 10:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross super stock
67autocross super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: I don't want to create a low rider, but just drop the car about 2". I know there are a lot of great options for replacement parts to really make the car handle (70 SuperBee), but is there a safe yet economical way to accomplish a 2" drop without spending $2500? Thanks in advance for the advice. -C Take a 80mph run at a set of railway tracks like the Dukes boys, repeat if necessary. A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: 67autocross] #1083822 11/13/11 11:00 AM 11/13/11 11:00 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan kilroy super stock
kilroy super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan	Quote: Take a 80mph run at a set of railway tracks like the Dukes boys, repeat if necessary. Hes asking how to lower the car, not how to clearance the chassis/exhaust. (not yet at least) 1973 Charger, former SE, former auto I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: kilroy] #1083823 11/16/11 10:12 AM 11/16/11 10:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes... Pale_Roader Swears too much
Pale_Roader Swears too much Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes...	Uh... just use the stock leafs and turn the T-bars down...??? Hahahahaha Seriously, i haven't seen a Mopar yet that hasn't lowered itself at least 2" due to saggy leafs. Just turn the T-bars down. For a better approach, just use lower profile tires. Thats cheap, and you get better performance tires as a bonus. You can still get 15" V and better rated tires i think. I did this to lower a 71 Fury and a 78 Volare. Both used 50-series 15" rubber on stock tires. The Fury especially sunk a bunch, due to its 78-series stock tire based ride height. Sure, they look goofy with the smaller tires, but i think lowered Mopars look goofy in general, so its probably just me. By the tiny 17" or 18" tires most Mopar guys end up using on the classic rides, id say most people would like the small tire look anyways. You can lower a stock Mopar up to 3" this way, yet still have a 100% original and untouched suspension. No weird suspension geometry from the usual methods. Now... if there was only a cheap way to RAISE the rear ov a Mopar without resorting to 2ft long shackles or yummy air-shocks...

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: TooMany62s] #1083824 11/18/11 01:26 PM 11/18/11 01:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA	Quote: Mancini sells lowering blocks for the rear. I used some on my '84 Dodge pick-up after I flipped the axle. They worked fine. Please do not use lowering blocks.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: kilroy] #1083825 11/18/11 01:28 PM 11/18/11 01:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA	Quote: I agree totally, I just did this to my car (flip the spring hangers) and the stock holes are over large and not a tight fight to the hanger bolts anyways, so the extra 1/8" grinding wont make a boo. Sorry about primer and the bad picks but I lost 2" in the butt. Here is the after pic. Nice, new springs or stock? What size tires? How about the front? Any over-all shots? Thanks (Burn Notice replica? lol)

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Montclaire] #1083826 11/18/11 09:54 PM 11/18/11 09:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan kilroy super stock
kilroy super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan	Quote: Nice, new springs or stock? What size tires? How about the front? Any over-all shots? Thanks (Burn Notice replica? lol) 275/60/15 on an 8"rim with 4.5 b/s on the rim. I always thought they looked a little tall with out them being tucked into the fenders like they are now, but I REALLY like the look of them now. Front I need to lower a little bit more but to do that I gottta fix the crappy local muff shop job on the exhaust (if you want something done right do it yourself) and I need to trim the bump stops a little on the front. Right now it sits square to the top of the fender openings on the front and back at 26.5". Springs are just HD springs from about 1999. I havent check the pinion angle yet but I will later. I was good before. whats with the burn notice replica? Oh and thanks for the compliment. Last edited by kilroy; 11/18/11 09:57 PM. 1973 Charger, former SE, former auto I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: kilroy] #1083827 11/18/11 10:52 PM 11/18/11 10:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,034 NW Indiana deansrr top fuel
deansrr top fuel Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,034 NW Indiana	front you take out torsion bar adjusters rear take diff off of springs, flip over and install above springs this should lower it quite a bit (of course I wouldn't drive it) 1973 Road Runner 1974 Satellite (for sale) 1973 240z (wifes) 1993 Ramcharger (thanks Devil) 2002 Honda S2000

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: deansrr] #1083828 11/19/11 12:29 AM 11/19/11 12:29 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA	Burn Notice - on USA? And no, that's not me in the photo.

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Montclaire] #1083829 11/19/11 12:46 AM 11/19/11 12:46 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Montclaire] #1083830 11/20/11 12:19 AM 11/20/11 12:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Quote: Mancini sells lowering blocks for the rear. I used some on my '84 Dodge pick-up after I flipped the axle. They worked fine. Please do not use lowering blocks. Can you explain your thinking?

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083831 11/20/11 11:49 PM 11/20/11 11:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA	Quote: Can you explain your thinking? Sigh

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: Montclaire] #1083832 11/20/11 11:59 PM 11/20/11 11:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,384 Madison Wi NTOLERANCE master
NTOLERANCE master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,384 Madison Wi	Quote: Quote: Can you explain your thinking? Sigh Lowering blocks will increase your rear axles distance from the leaf spring, thereby creating a lever effect, that will INCREASE the possibility of wheel hop and or traction loss. I used to care but....... things have changed

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: NTOLERANCE] #1083833 11/21/11 12:10 AM 11/21/11 12:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Can you explain your thinking? Sigh Lowering blocks will increase your rear axles distance from the leaf spring, thereby creating a lever effect, that will INCREASE the possibility of wheel hop and or traction loss. Thanks for sharing your actual thought - at least you shared some logic instead of just assuming everyone knows everything about suspension like Mont-Claire and therefore we should just shut down the internet and Moparts because apparently everyone has all the answers now or are mind readers when someone post a statement like " don't do this or that".

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083834 11/21/11 07:55 AM 11/21/11 07:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,465 Answering the call of the wild T ThermoQuad top fuel
ThermoQuad top fuel T Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,465 Answering the call of the wild	Just answer the question. But first WHERE IS THE SUSPENSION HANDLING FORUM??? Maybe santa has some pull here Most economical method to lower a B-body: Reverse the front spring eye-requires some filing as the mounting pattern is asymmetrical. Lower the front using the proper procedure!!! Look it up Notes: Tire diameter should not exceed 26 inches Top of tire should be at the bottom of the fender lip, set front height accordingly. Have car realigned Lowering blocks is bad advice You do not need dropped spindles

Re: Most economical method to lower a B-body [Re: ramman5600] #1083835 11/21/11 11:23 AM 11/21/11 11:23 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA Montclaire master
Montclaire master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,982 Scranton, PA	Quote: Thanks for sharing your actual thought - at least you shared some logic instead of just assuming everyone knows everything about suspension like Mont-Claire and therefore we should just shut down the internet and Moparts because apparently everyone has all the answers now or are mind readers when someone post a statement like " don't do this or that". I could go on for paragraphs and people would still use lowering blocks, I didn't feel like getting into it. It's the reason that JC Whitney is still in business, and can continue to sell helper leafs, air shocks, and light up donkey hood ornaments. Some people will insist that they do things the right way, and some will go the other route, but hey, it's a big world with a lot of things happening, and it doesn't matter much at the end of the day.

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