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race car wiring #1083744
09/27/11 06:26 PM
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Have to rewire my drag car, money is always a issue!!! Who makes a good wiring kit? Could any of you show me some pictures of how you installed you Ign.panels. I do not know if I want to install panel off the top bar or not [roof] Would like to see what other racers have done, thanks

Re: race car wiring [Re: coronetville] #1083745
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I used a Painless wiring kit.The one I used was for a roll bar mount,but I made brackets and mounted it to the trans tunnel.It was very easy to install and it works great.


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Re: race car wiring [Re: Chris2581] #1083746
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I think I want to mount that way too. got a picture? thanks

Re: race car wiring [Re: coronetville] #1083747
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Sure! I'll get one for you later tonight.

EDIT..camera batteries are dead!! I'll get it tomorrow for sure.

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Re: race car wiring [Re: Chris2581] #1083748
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I prefer ARC when it comes to a racer budget wiring panel and harness. I have noticed that Jegs has their own brand too. Just depends on what you need.

There is some stuff out there that is incredibly nice but it will cost ya.

Most of my customers are very happy with the ARC stuff I have installed.

Leon


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Re: race car wiring [Re: Leon441] #1083749
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will look into it, thank you

Re: race car wiring [Re: coronetville] #1083750
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A ARC switch box with painless wire kit mounted on the trans tunnle

Re: race car wiring [Re: theraif] #1083751
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Not to be a Samrt-azz but do a Google search of Images " Race Car Wiring". There are a lot of pictures out there.

Wires & Pliers and Spaghetti Menders also have some good pics on their websites.

I'm with Leon on the ARC stuff, Looks good and is reasonable on the price.

There is Better out there but you'll pay dearly for it.

Do yourself a HUGE favor and make the install neat, clean and label your wires.

Re: race car wiring [Re: DakFink] #1083752
09/28/11 12:11 AM
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I just put one of these boards in my car. It cleaned things up quite a bit. http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146727


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Re: race car wiring [Re: coronetville] #1083753
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I just rewired my whole car.
I went with a K&R unit.
I was very impressed!!
It came with every single wire and they were all labled and color coded.
It also came with a huge laminated diagram that was very easy to follow.
It comes with a sweet switch pannel also.
They also have great customer service.
I found them at a MOPAR show.
I went with the super duty.
It is not the cheapest by any means, but in my opinion its the best!
Here is a link to them.
K&R

Re: race car wiring [Re: HEMIDARTS] #1083754
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Few pics of my DIY...

http://www.nmbuilder.com/Panel-o-stuff.jpg

http://www.nmbuilder.com/Dash_installed.jpg

http://www.nmbuilder.com/terminal_blocks.jpg

Now that I've done it, I know how to do it....It's just like installing a sprinkler system, only smaller parts.


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Re: race car wiring [Re: coronetville] #1083755
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I usually build my own to suit the customer needs. Heres a few pics from a 68 Dart I wired a couple years ago. This is the under dash board that has the MSD, coil, shift lite control box and RPM box, relays and self reset breakers. I buy most components from Waytek Wire or Del City.

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Re: race car wiring [Re: Evil Spirit] #1083756
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Back of dash. Switches, gauges, ignition and brake switches, and connectors for turn signal and front/rear wiring harnesses.

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Re: race car wiring [Re: Evil Spirit] #1083757
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Trunk panel with main shut off, fuel/start relays, with start solenoid and main breaker on back.

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Re: race car wiring [Re: Evil Spirit] #1083758
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Dash switches. Switches scourced from Waytek and I labeled them.

6845917-J21.jpg (763 downloads)

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Re: race car wiring [Re: Evil Spirit] #1083759
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Just out of curiosity! How much do shops usually charge to do complete wiring.

Say a Turbo/EFI car that needs everything, it Has been stripped of all wires?

I ask because I need to wire mine, and wondering what the $$$ difference would be of doing it myself or paying for someone else's services?

I'm an Aircraft Electrician by profession so this would be easy. Just hard to get it done when I'm gone all the time.

Re: race car wiring [Re: Evil Spirit] #1083760
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Thanks, for all the help, I have been beating myself to death, working on wiring problems for a long time, instead of having fun, racing, ect. ect....... Did not know I had so many choices. Going to plan it out, take my time and do it right, thanks again

Re: race car wiring [Re: coronetville] #1083761
09/28/11 09:09 AM
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I have rewired several cars and I like the ARCtouch panel the best.

Inexpensive and comes with a relay panel.

My 2


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Re: race car wiring [Re: mopar376d] #1083762
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Evilspirit you have some nice stuff. And about the time I was gonna jump on my soap box I saw your relay panel in the trunk.

Here is my little ole opinion. Many of these kits and panels are extremely attractive and neat. The neat little relay panel everyone mounts in their particular chosen location. Makes for a really nice neat job. But, I am a practical guy. Been doing electrical and electronic work for 30 years.

I would like to show these guys were they mislead their customers. Here it goes follow along. Your battery is most likely in your trunk.(If not disregard everything I am going to tyep). You run a large 15ft cable up to a distribution or simply to your starter realy or starter solenoid. You then run a #10 to your relay panel that is probably fairly short. 15 ft of #14 from the controled side of the relay back to the fuel pump in the rear of the car. 10ft of #14 from the relay panel to your fans, water pump of whatever on the nose of the car. Your fuel pump is now 30ft of wire away from your battery. Your fan and water pump is 25 ft away from your battery. If you run an alternater you run your wire back to the battery so the shut off works unless you have it relay controlled most don't. Your 12 volt battery without an alternater has about 12.8 volts. Put a meter on your fuel pump wire with it unhooked from the pump, 12.8 volts. Hook the pump up and check it. The battery still has 12.5 volts with the 6 amp load on it but, at the pump you only have 11.5 volts. Unless you run #4 welding lead to everything you are gonna have a voltage drop with running 12 volts up 30 ft of wire on anything that requires any power. Evil spirit seems to share my idea you need a realy at the rear of the car so you can pickup power from the battery limiting your circuit to 5 ft instead of 30 ft.

I also run relays up front for the fans. What I currently have looks like crap from ARC their generec relay boards are not pretty but you can do anything with how you want the relay to work. These ultra neat relay centers placed next to your ignition or wherever you choose are extremely neat. On OEM cars they do this for service and assembly but, you have an alternater. Our Magnum has a rear mounted battery and also has a fuse are relay panel in the rear so OEM is catching on too.

I'm not saying to disregard using these nice wiring harnesses but remember where your loads are, like the fuel pump in the trunk. Put a relay back there where it can actually do some good.

Leon


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Re: race car wiring [Re: Leon441] #1083763
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I agree...

The heavy hitters like fan and water pump relays are under the hood, fuel pump relay (and battery) are in the back...Everything else is mid point, in the cab.

I have 3 ground lugs, back-middle-front all grounded back to the battery.


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