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Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 #1081828
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Heavy car as well(3840)
Non experienced driver to boot!

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081829
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Broke on starting line.

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081830
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Richmond 4:10 with cone style suregrip

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081831
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Left axle splines twisted.Stock with long wheel studs.

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081832
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Another pic of axle splines

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081833
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Yep split the sleeve,lost all the preload then mayhem was introduced
They all fail eventually
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Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081834
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Scalloping grooves on the carrier is old damage from years ago when the pinion was loose.Had 3:23 gears back then.
New damage is axle and ring gear teeth missing.
Car hooked hard tho....

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081835
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What do you mean by "split the sleeve"?
I don't understand.

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081836
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Another pic of axle splines




For stock axles the splines arent too bad... my go fast
axles look worse than that... they took a set and have
stayed that way ever since

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1081837
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For stock axles the splines arent too bad... my go fast
axles look worse than that... they took a set and have
stayed that way ever since
Not afraid of them breaking off when twisted like that?

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081838
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What do you mean by "split the sleeve"?
I don't understand.




Its a 489 case, right... it uses a crush sleeve on
the pinion... apply enough load and the pinion will
push forwards and crush it more and thats the start
of what you have... heavy cars WILL break a 8 3/4...
I still use a 8 3/4 but my car is light... with a 1.19 60'

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081839
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For stock axles the splines arent too bad... my go fast
axles look worse than that... they took a set and have
stayed that way ever since
Not afraid of them breaking off when twisted like that?




Anything is possible... but they have been in there
that way for 8 years now

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1081840
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Mike,
a friend helped me drill out the 7290 yolk and attached heavier straps and grade 8 bolts/nuts the day before I went to the track.
I removed the yolk for drilling.
I knew I had the 489 with a crush sleeve.
The pig was just freshened with new bearings & pinion seal last fall.
I re-installed the yolk and torqued it to 190 lbs.
I was told by the person who re-built my pig that he torqued it to 225 ft. lbs.
The yolk definately felt different(tighter)after I torqued to 190
I was gonna step it to 225lbs after I reached 190 but stopped because it felt tighter.
The next day after driving it to the track,it broke on the starting line after 1 easy pass to break in the new slicks.
Do you think I probably crushed the sleeve further,and changed the pre-load?
John

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081841
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Mike,
a friend helped me drill out the 7290 yolk and attached heavier straps and grade 8 bolts/nuts the day before I went to the track.
I removed the yolk for drilling.
I knew I had the 489 with a crush sleeve.
The pig was just freshened with new bearings & pinion seal last fall.
I re-installed the yolk and torqued it to 190 lbs.
I was told by the person who re-built my pig that he torqued it to 225 ft. lbs.
The yolk definately felt different(tighter)after I torqued to 190
I was gonna step it to 225lbs after I reached 190 but stopped because it felt tighter.
The next day after driving it to the track,it broke on the starting line after 1 easy pass to break in the new slicks.
Do you think I probably crushed the sleeve further,and changed the pre-load?
John




If I were to race(or even street drive) the 489 I
would go with the solid sleeve... did you change the
pre-load... most likely... if I need to pull the yoke
I torque it back to spec(or damn close).... JMO on
the preload... but either way... a heavy car and 4 speed
with slicks and have good bite.... something has to give

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081842
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jcastle1 I'd be proud of that one maybe a door stop or something for the show and tell LOL you did a fine job on the 383 just need a tougher rear ..

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: Lawn Monkey] #1081843
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jcastle1 I'd be proud of that one maybe a door stop or something for the show and tell LOL you did a fine job on the 383 just need a tougher rear ..

Are you poking fun at me?
I don't quite understand,please explain further.
John

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081844
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He's telling you , be proud, your 383 is a monster that just ate your rearend .

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: jcastle1] #1081845
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Not poking fun at all like Remcharger posted you built a monster 383 that something to be proud of .

Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: RemCharger] #1081846
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He's telling you , be proud, your 383 is a monster that just ate your rearend .




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Re: Healthy 383+4-speed+slicks=junk 8 3/4 [Re: OhioMopar] #1081847
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Yeah, that's kind of a good news/bad news deal. Now you have me thinking about a Dana for my wagon...as in "do it once and do it bulletproof".

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