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Re: New idea for a 273 stroker [Re: dogdays] #1080903
09/26/11 06:28 PM
09/26/11 06:28 PM
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These flights of "What If" thinking are interesting, but I prefer building more common stuff.
I understand that a free motor sitting over in the corner can eat away at your gray matter, but add up all the parts and machining.
What percentage would a 175 dollar You-Pick-It 360 magnum be? On a 1750 build (CHEAP), it's 10 percent. If your dream engine is 330 cubes, you are getting 30 extra cubes, almost 10 percent for that extra 10 percent in cost. We won't even talk about roller cam, better breathing ports, and less valve shrouding.
The first issue with RPMs seems to be piston speed. The second is valvetrain issues. Try to find the circa 1979 Car Craft issues that had Dyno Don's P/S Arrow in them.

Re: New idea for a 273 stroker [Re: RodStRace] #1080904
09/26/11 07:15 PM
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If I wanted to be building or dreaming cookie-cutter engines I'd still be driving a Chevy 350. Where's the challenge in that?

If I had an extra $1750 lying around I'd be driving the "long-term stroker" in my '64Dog. I must not be in the "cheap" category, maybe mine is the "ultra-cheap". Paying for two households on one income with two kids in college will do that to you.

OF COURSE larger and better engines can be built, but where I live that 5.9 Magnum costs a minimum of $450 complete with 100K miles and a spun bearing or two. For $175 I can get a core 360 shortblock. So that free 318 block looks a lot better, because the stroker crank plus the free 318 are about the same cost as that $450 5.9.

The most important part, though, is the thrill of the chase. How can I do it better/faster/cheaper is what drives these flights of fancy. To me the alternative feels a lot like getting back to that 350 chevy.....

To each, his own taste!

R.

Re: New idea for a 273 stroker [Re: dogdays] #1080905
09/26/11 07:37 PM
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Cheap summit rebuild kits are $200
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Depar.../?Ns=Rank%7cAsc

Add in your dream pistons, rings, rods.
Don't forget doing something to the bores and the valves.
We won't touch on WP + coolant, OP + oil and filter, RTV, or other stuff you may already have.

I don't know where you live, so I don't know what's available local.

http://www.u-pull-it.com/
ENGINE- FUEL INJ (W/ACC.) 192.55 WO warr. 240.69 W warr.
cheaper if you pull off the EFI.


http://ecoparts.com/index.htm
half off sale Oct. 1

http://www.picknpull.com/part_pricing.aspx

The 360 could probably be hosed off, painted up and run fine. Scrounge up a carb intake and carb.

Re: New idea for a 273 stroker [Re: patrick] #1080906
09/26/11 10:33 PM
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Quote:

so your exotic, expensive 330CID 273 based stroker has the same HP/tq potential essentially as a .060 over 318....or less than a stock stroke 360....




, thats GOT to leave mark.

Sorry to Op to be so blunt, but other then the glory of seeing their own post get a life of its own, I have yet to see over the years a "build to be different" post ever be admitted to by the OP as a build to be ****, no matter what logic is presented. I know its a free country and pretty free forum, but not sure what is really learned here in a post like this. And FWIW, I bought a car with a transplanted warmed over nice running 273, boy do I feel different.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: New idea for a 273 stroker [Re: RodStRace] #1080907
09/27/11 03:33 AM
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There is a guy at the track with a 11 second 273. His response is Never again! Lots of money in it, however it is so cool!


1969 Dodge dart 500 stroker 1973 Dodge Challenger 440
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