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Mike, if you don't have any BS pics, I'm sure Dan, Doug or Barry do.


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Basically ALL 383/440 optional axle packages (A31, A32, A34, A36), trailer towing (A35), Hemis and cop cars got the 054.

A33 was 055.

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Thanks very much for this info as well as the FSM info you posted in the Q&A A33 thread. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post6920208

It is great info that certainly cleared up a lot for me!

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Here's the FSM for this thread showing 440-4 speed was 055.

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These two threads should be linked

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rt=all&vc=1

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then what makes or desinates 055, mas cooling? Broadcast sheet? 440, with 4 sp,, is 055,, but what options make that override to 054? axle ratio? what package pkgs?

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For sure the 4.10 DANA gets the 054, I have a photo of a '69 4-speed 4.10 ratio Dana with a 054 radiator that is original to the car and it is small font with a Lynch Road SPD of 1 29 (Jan 29, '69).

I would say the axle ratio and type/size is at or near the top of the radiator spec list, then A/C or trailer tow of course but after that I don't know I don't think that power brakes (disc front or 4-wheel drums) would require more or different cooling needs?? What else is there unless there is a "tropical" option that goes with the "heater delete" option????

(I'll probably learn something here again today like I do everyday on Moparts )


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What's odd is the 440 with 3.54's got the 055 but a 383 with 3.55's got the 054 ???

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That is odd

I wonder if Chrysler was just trying to get rid of stock and obsoleted the 055 2-row 26" radiators?

Radiator Bob said he has never seen a small font 055 radiator and I know that the small fonts first started to show up on Lynch Road cars near the end of Jan, '69.

A 3.23 8-3/4 with or without Suregrip got a 22" radator (without A/C or towing), a 3.54 Dana Suregrip got a 055, a 3.55 Suregrip got the 054, a 3.91 8-3/4 got a 054, a 4.10 8-3/4 and 9-3/4 Dana got the 054 and we never saw a small font or a 2-row 26" radiator again........making that last part up or is that true. What replaced the 055 2-row 26" radiator in 1970???


What was the extra space for in front of the '69 2949 055 and '68 28980 47 radiator for, air space for the A/C condensor


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So, if you specified a 4-speed when ordering your new '69 GTX or RT, BUT did not want an axle package, then you got a DANA with 3:54 gears minus the requisite "max cooling" that would have been included were you to have ordered an axle package? Thus, your car would have had the 055 radiator installed?
Very interesting.....

I always thought that a 4-speed GTX,RT, or 440/426 Charger RT automatically came equipped with an axle package?

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So, if you specified a 4-speed when ordering your new '69 GTX or RT, BUT did not want an axle package, then you got a DANA with 3:54 gears minus the requisite "max cooling" that would have been included were you to have ordered an axle package? Thus, your car would have had the 055 radiator installed?
Very interesting.....

I always thought that a 4-speed GTX,RT, or 440/426 Charger RT automatically came equipped with an axle package?

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Every book & sales code manual that I've ever read says that "A33" is in fact an axle package which included the 054 radiator.

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.....A33 Track Pac group that included the four speed, Dana, 055 et al.

While the A33 does include the 3.54 Dana, it's not necessarily considered an 'axle package' like the others are.Odd...but true.

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Every book & sales code manual that I've ever read says that "A33" is in fact an axle package which included the 054 radiator.

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Here are the pages from the 1969 Dodge data book and price list. The A33 info does not have the word "axle" or any specific rad reference.

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.....A33 Track Pac group that included the four speed, Dana, 055 et al.

While the A33 does include the 3.54 Dana, it's not necessarily considered an 'axle package' like the others are.Odd...but true.

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Every book & sales code manual that I've ever read says that "A33" is in fact an axle package which included the 054 radiator.

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Here are the pages from the 1969 Dodge data book and price list. The A33 info does not have the word "axle" or any specific rad reference.

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On the sidebar info A33 is the only one that states "required" and not "available" and as has been noted the word "axle" is NOT used...you guys are good

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While the A33 does include the 3.54 Dana, it's not necessarily considered an 'axle package' like the others are.Odd...but true.

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Every book & sales code manual that I've ever read says that "A33" is in fact an axle package which included the 054 radiator.

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Given the originality of your car, the sample broacast sheets and the FSM, it gives you every reason to believe the 055 is original to your car. The Photos and FSM would suffice if any judge questioned it. I think that the Dodge accessories data you posted would still raise questions if you didn't have the other references. The Dodge info indicates that the A33 package has a 26" High Performance radiator and fan shroud that is (STD. Hemi). Must be an oversight or false advertising! IMO, I don't think you need to question it any further. It's just that the 3.54 really did not come with max cooling otherwise known as the HP radiator as advertised.