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055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? #1078259
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(Bob), what is/are the differences between a 2949055 and a 2949054 radiator.........(not just the number of rows if there is anything else)

I think my 055 is a 2-row radiator with space at the front for a condensor (maybe?).

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Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: A12] #1078260
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055 is a 2 row , 054 ... well you know

Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: A12] #1078261
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Mike,
The 055 also has a 12" trans cooler and the 054 has a 15" cooler. Other than the lower tank being bigger on the 054, thats it.

Bob

Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: radiatorman] #1078262
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Bob,
sorry to have to ask you to clarify more, but I'm confused by what you and Johnrr said. Are you saying that the 054 originally is only a 2 row like the 055? Only difference is the lower tank? If you're "Glenn-Ray" Bob, thanks for the lower tank you just sent for my 70. Looks great. Tom

Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: BLACKHEMIRR] #1078263
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Hey Tom,
Glad I could help with the tank! The 054 is a factory 3-row and the 055 is a factory 2-row.

Bob

Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: BLACKHEMIRR] #1078264
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Bob,
sorry to have to ask you to clarify more, but I'm confused by what you and Johnrr said. Are you saying that the 054 originally is only a 2 row like the 055? Only difference is the lower tank? If you're "Glenn-Ray" Bob, thanks for the lower tank you just sent for my 70. Looks great. Tom




I guess I should have not assumed that everyone knew that the 054 was a 3 row, that was just between Mike and myself.

Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: radiatorman] #1078265
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Mike,
The 055 also has a 12" trans cooler and the 054 has a 15" cooler. Other than the lower tank being bigger on the 054, thats it.

Bob



Mike, I don't know if you answered this before but is the 055 on your broadcast sheet?

Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1078266
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The 055 also has a 12" trans cooler and the 054 has a 15" cooler. Other than the lower tank being bigger on the 054, thats it.

Bob



Mike, I don't know if you answered this before but is the 055 on your broadcast sheet?




John the GTX is an "E" LA assembly plant car, no broadcast sheet but I'm 99% sure the 055 radiator is the original to the car, it is an original (nummbers matching) 3.54 Dana, 4-speed, 440 engine, even the original wheels and original spare. I think only the 4.10 Dana got the 054 radiator, saw an original 4.10 Dana 4-speed GTX at Mike's B/E&A get together a few years ago with the 054 (have photos....of course ) and another 3.54 Dana with a 055 at the Nat's too.

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Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: A12] #1078267
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I think I need to see a broadcast sheet to be convinced. I know the 383 with the A31 package came with an 054. I am sure that by high performance radiator they meant maximum cooling. The literature that I remember used the words maximum cooling system. The 055 also came with a different fan clutch for A/C. I know your car is very original but the 054 could have been switched for a different home at some point?

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Wow, sounds like the factory could have saved us alot of trouble by using the words "3 row 26" rad" and "2 row 26" rad" on the axle package descriptions!

Need some broadcast sheets to put this one to bed boys.....

Mike, if you don't have any BS pics, I'm sure Dan, Doug or Barry do.


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Re: 055 & 054 '69 RADIATORS are they both 3-row rads? [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #1078269
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I think I need to see a broadcast sheet to be convinced. I know the 383 with the A31 package came with an 054. I am sure that by high performance radiator they meant maximum cooling. The literature that I remember used the words maximum cooling system. The 055 also came with a different fan clutch for A/C. I know your car is very original but the 054 could have been switched for a different home at some point?




John, I agree that the 054 came with the A31 High Performance Axle Package with the 3.91 8-3/4 and that's what camee with my '69 road runner I ordered in '69 but my '69 GTX is a 3.54 Dana which is the A33 Track Pak.

As for the radiator being switch I can't rule that out. The car title shows me as the third owner and it was almost completely original down to the wheels that still have a set of '70's or '80's BFG T/A radials with the original T/A tread patern. I'll post two photos of the engine in the car untouched with 93,000+ miles on it, one that my friend took when he was told about it and one that was on ebay at the same time as my friend was looking at it (that's another long crazy story too).

Let me know if it looks like an original radiator and if you can tell if it's an 054 or 055:

Photo from ebay no sale:

(Remember this is a California silenced car with no chrome tips either)

LOOK AT THE RADIATOR CAP AND THE DIRECTION OF THE OVERFOLW TUBE!!! NOTE THE ANGLE

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The photo my friend took:

(Again note the angle of the overflow tube)

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The 055 radiator now cleaned and painted, with the 305 8 (October 31, 1968) date code. The GTX has a C16/December 16, 1968 Scheduled Production Date so it is close enough to be the original and I still believe it is the original radiator to the car.

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and here's a 054 LARGE FONT radiator in an A31 High Performance Axle package road runner (just like you said John ). And in this photo something should jump out at you that if the first two photos that I posted are of the original radiator, to my GTX then it is an 055 in the GTX


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and here's a 054 LARGE FONT radiator in an A31 High Performance Axle package road runner (just like you said John ). And in this photo something should jump out at you that if the first two photos that I posted are of the original radiator, to my GTX then it is an 055 in the GTX


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Mike, it looks like an original radiator but it also looks like the motor is red? Was the motor pulled and repainted at one time? All I'm saying is that from what I see in the parts manual and in the description of the axle packages, the 055 is supposed to be an A/C radiator and a high performance (max cooling) radiator is standard with all the axle packages and should be an 054. It would be interesting to see some broadcast sheets for some GTX's like yours.

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The date code and radiator seem original but the 054 is the high performance radiator. Maybe for the A33, the description should have said simply a 26" radiator and they did not mean to describe it as a high performance radiator? I wonder if the 055 comes with the 3.55 8 3/4 axle package?

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Mike, if you don't have any BS pics, I'm sure Dan, Doug or Barry do.


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Basically ALL 383/440 optional axle packages (A31, A32, A34, A36), trailer towing (A35), Hemis and cop cars (BK or WK) got the 054.

A33 was 055.

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