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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: 340B5] #1076236
09/19/11 12:50 PM
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Humm... Some feedback from that comment Its not like I don't like our Chinese friends.... Its that I like my American friends more, I understand that cheaper Mopar parts are a good thing giving the availability for more people to build sooner or @ all.... But the current trend for American corps. to manufacture in China and market in the USA has become a MAJOR problem for all of US .... Its the American consumer that will decide if this country gets back on track or not.... Chinese parts do make for a lot of cool carnage pic posts over the years... Just another opinion

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: emarine01] #1076237
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I have finally decided to put an American to work, even if it is only for a couple hours.

I'm going to buy a Callies, but it's real hard to spend 300 extra dollars when you don't have to.

At least I'll have some piece of mind that I won't be participating in the carnage pics thread.


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: 340B5] #1076238
09/19/11 10:23 PM
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I have finally decided to put an American to work, even if it is only for a couple hours.

I'm going to buy a Callies, but it's real hard to spend 300 extra dollars when you don't have to.

At least I'll have some piece of mind that I won't be participating in the carnage pics thread.





Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1076239
09/23/11 12:01 PM
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Well I got the crank back last night and I put it in
this morning... spins nice and free... now I'll check
the clearances and if it shows good then I'll start
the assembly

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1076240
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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: Crizila] #1076241
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Interesting read. Surprised no one has mentioned the shipper. I would venture to guess that more stuff gets damaged in shipping than you may think. Just because it went from the "factory" to you doesn't mean 10 other people haven't tossed it around in between. Just sent a box of lifters back to Summit a few days ago. They came out of their factory ( individual ) packaging and were all jumbled together in the bottom of the Summit box. Summit's packaging wasn't that swift, but the box looked like it had been dragged behind the UPS truck for a few thousand miles.




Same thing here with some brake parts I ordered. Thrown in a flimsy box with those stupid air bag things and parts all over the place. I was convinced I would be missing something through the hole in the side of the box, luckily not. I agree with the shippers being absolutely horrible, but the packing needs improvement as well.

I can totlaly see a crank being damaged this way.

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: POS Dakota] #1076242
09/23/11 02:17 PM
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I can totlaly see a crank being damaged this way.




The only aftermarket crank I ever bought was the BPE 4.125 - it was in a double coardboard box, inside was 2 bags of foam - one top and one bottom. It was not OOR when I checked it. I dont know what other manufacturers ship the cranks in but Rod's stuff was packaged right and it helped.

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: DJVCuda] #1076243
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It measured up good... I set it at .002 and .002
(mains and rods) with .007 end play.... I'm sure not
use to 1/16" rings... man do they DRAG... I got 28 ft lbs
to turn the assembly, my race stuff takes 18 ft lbs
EDIT
after playing with it I got the break away torque down
to 24 ft lbs... those rings just drag alot

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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1076244
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It measured up good... I set it at .002 and .002
(mains and rods) with .007 end play.... I'm sure not
use to 1/16" rings... man do they DRAG... I got 28 ft lbs
to turn the assembly, my race stuff takes 18 ft lbs





Ft-lbs?

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: DJVCuda] #1076245
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I can totlaly see a crank being damaged this way.




The only aftermarket crank I ever bought was the BPE 4.125 - it was in a double coardboard box, inside was 2 bags of foam - one top and one bottom. It was not OOR when I checked it. I dont know what other manufacturers ship the cranks in but Rod's stuff was packaged right and it helped.




I don't know Rob but sounds like he runs his business not have somebody else do it. So if a crank get banged up during shipping it is his dollar. Make sense to package well to avoid unneeded expenses.

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: 408strokerdart] #1076246
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It measured up good... I set it at .002 and .002
(mains and rods) with .007 end play.... I'm sure not
use to 1/16" rings... man do they DRAG... I got 28 ft lbs
to turn the assembly, my race stuff takes 18 ft lbs





Ft-lbs?




yep... that is the break away torque

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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: MattW] #1076247
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I can totlaly see a crank being damaged this way.




The only aftermarket crank I ever bought was the BPE 4.125 - it was in a double coardboard box, inside was 2 bags of foam - one top and one bottom. It was not OOR when I checked it. I dont know what other manufacturers ship the cranks in but Rod's stuff was packaged right and it helped.




I don't know Rob but sounds like he runs his business not have somebody else do it. So if a crank get banged up during shipping it is his dollar. Make sense to package well to avoid unneeded expenses.




that's the way they're boxed from China. Many other brands come exactly the same way.


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: Performance Only] #1076248
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I really dont think it makes any difference if the delivery guy drops the china crank or the american crank they will get bent either way and will cost the same to repair either one! Could someone point me in the direction of the carnage threads with the china cranks that can prove that it was actually the cranks fault. Has anyone ever had to do any work to correct there american made crank?


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: dragram440] #1076249
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I really dont think it makes any difference if the delivery guy drops the china crank or the american crank they will get bent either way and will cost the same to repair either one! Could someone point me in the direction of the carnage threads with the china cranks that can prove that it was actually the cranks fault. Has anyone ever had to do any work to correct there american made crank?




I can't point you in that direction but if my new stroker blows chunks I'm blaming the crank anyway.

Not like it was the fault of the hack that assembled it.


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: Performance Only] #1076250
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I can totlaly see a crank being damaged this way.




The only aftermarket crank I ever bought was the BPE 4.125 - it was in a double coardboard box, inside was 2 bags of foam - one top and one bottom. It was not OOR when I checked it. I dont know what other manufacturers ship the cranks in but Rod's stuff was packaged right and it helped.




I don't know Rob but sounds like he runs his business not have somebody else do it. So if a crank get banged up during shipping it is his dollar. Make sense to package well to avoid unneeded expenses.




that's the way they're boxed from China. Many other brands come exactly the same way.




My Callies came just like that. Now I'll put some Chinese 4340 rods on it so I can get my butterflies back.


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned [Re: 340B5] #1076251
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Last new Crank I bought was in a wooden box with supports for it.It was a Crank Shaft comp crank.Paid 40 bucks for it brand new.Wish I could find deals like that now.Rocky


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned... UPDATE [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1076252
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Well this is what it looks like today... still need
to do some clearance work on the valve covers(they
hit the rockers at the lip)... I will order up the
push rods next week... I'm going to have to use 5/16"
push rods because I'm real close to hitting the intake
ports... and I need to finish the pan

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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned... UPDATE [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1076253
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Looks good Mr P

FWIW..... I have all my cranks checked by my crank guy before I do anything with them.. Just peace of mind


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Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned... UPDATE [Re: DemonDust] #1076254
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Looks good Mr P

FWIW..... I have all my cranks checked by my crank guy before I do anything with them.. Just peace of mind




This is the first crank I've had any problem with

Re: Had To Have My New Crank Turned... UPDATE [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1076255
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Well this is what it looks like today... still need
to do some clearance work on the valve covers(they
hit the rockers at the lip)... I will order up the
push rods next week... I'm going to have to use 5/16"
push rods because I'm real close to hitting the intake
ports... and I need to finish the pan





Looks really good. I had a set of those super expensive valve covers and I sold them because they were sooo heavy.


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2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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