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Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: mikemee1331] #1072517
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One thing not mentioned is that the current MP SS springs will put the shackle at a bad angle (leaning from front to back versus the correct back to front).


2 clarify 4 me should the BOTTOM of the rear vertical shackle b to the rear?


didn't we do this before? yes, pointing towards the bumper. \




Haha! Thanks for clarifying. I re-read what I wrote and I didn't have a clear reference. The shackle eye of the spring should be rearward of the body side of the shackle. My SS springs were just the opposite, which is not good.

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: Manifold] #1072518
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One thing not mentioned is that the current MP SS springs will put the shackle at a bad angle (leaning from front to back versus the correct back to front).


2 clarify 4 me should the BOTTOM of the rear vertical shackle b to the rear?


didn't we do this before? yes, pointing towards the bumper. \




Haha! Thanks for clarifying. I re-read what I wrote and I didn't have a clear reference. The shackle eye of the spring should be rearward of the body side of the shackle. My SS springs were just the opposite, which is not good.





If you have the wrong angle at the rear shackle then you have thge wrong springs on the car. That happened when my buddies Dodge has the Plymouth springs on it. Plymouth has a shorter wheelbase. Put the right springs on it and it fixed it. Ron

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #1072519
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I ride with SS springs and NO they don't ride like a dump truck. Very firm, but not too stiff at all.

I don't know WHAT was up with Dave's springs in that pic... but mine don't look like that!

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #1072520
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I ride with SS springs and NO they don't ride like a dump truck. Very firm, but not too stiff at all.

I don't know WHAT was up with Dave's springs in that pic... but mine don't look like that!




Dave doesn't know either!

I asked about it on a thread when I first put them on and nobody seemed to know why......all I know for sure is that they are WAY too high and WAY too stiff. I've had 3/4 ton trucks that had lighter springs. I would have used them if they would have had the right ride height, but clearly they were ridiculous.


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Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: HemiChallenger] #1072521
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Mopar S/S springs are the one "old tech" part that I won't use. For one thing I don't like the way the car doesn't sit straight from one side to the other with them and when I seen Dave's fiasco (in person) I couldn't believe it. I used to spend a lot of my paycheques buying Direct Connection and Mopar Performance stuff but after many expensive lessons I haven't spent a dime on MP stuff for several years.
Just run Cal Tracs and be done with it.

Sheldon

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1072522
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Mopar S/S springs are the one "old tech" part that I won't use. For one thing I don't like the way the car doesn't sit straight from one side to the other with them and when I seen Dave's fiasco (in person) I couldn't believe it. I used to spend a lot of my paycheques buying Direct Connection and Mopar Performance stuff but after many expensive lessons I haven't spent a dime on MP stuff for several years.
Just run Cal Tracs and be done with it.

Sheldon





Every car I put SS springs sits crooked at first. Then I adjust the torsion bars to make them sit level. That works fine on all of them I have put SS springs on including my 63. I figure because of how the springs work is why they sit crooked at first. Ron

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: 383man] #1072523
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I had one re-arched to match the other. Problem solved.

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: 383man] #1072524
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Every car I put SS springs sits crooked at first.


Was that w the diff #'s on each side ie 002/003's


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Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: RapidRobert] #1072525
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Every car I put SS springs sits crooked at first.


Was that w the diff #'s on each side ie 002/003's





Yes always with the set of right and left by part #. Ron

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: RapidRobert] #1072526
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Every car I put SS springs sits crooked at first.


Was that w the diff #'s on each side ie 002/003's


The passenger side leaf spring has more leafs in it. If you are worried about it being crooked just order 2 of the same side..

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: 540challenger] #1072527
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I have the XHD springs on my car for over a year and they haven't sagged yet. Very happy with them, and cheap as far as I'm concerned.


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Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1072528
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Mopar S/S springs are the one "old tech" part that I won't use. For one thing I don't like the way the car doesn't sit straight from one side to the other with them and when I seen Dave's fiasco (in person) I couldn't believe it. I used to spend a lot of my paycheques buying Direct Connection and Mopar Performance stuff but after many expensive lessons I haven't spent a dime on MP stuff for several years.
Just run Cal Tracs and be done with it.

Sheldon




I'm sure glad Sheldon saw Dave's car like that 'cause I would have never beleived it myself.
Curious now to know what the part numbers are on those springs.
I had an old '57 chrysler once that someone put a tad too short of a spring in the right rear...when you hit a good sized dip in the road, the shackle would "flip" forward too far and jam the spring like that....about 4" higher on that side until you hit another bump!!

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: superwrench] #1072529
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Mopar S/S springs are the one "old tech" part that I won't use. For one thing I don't like the way the car doesn't sit straight from one side to the other with them and when I seen Dave's fiasco (in person) I couldn't believe it. I used to spend a lot of my paycheques buying Direct Connection and Mopar Performance stuff but after many expensive lessons I haven't spent a dime on MP stuff for several years.
Just run Cal Tracs and be done with it.

Sheldon




I'm sure glad Sheldon saw Dave's car like that 'cause I would have never beleived it myself.
Curious now to know what the part numbers are on those springs.
I had an old '57 chrysler once that someone put a tad too short of a spring in the right rear...when you hit a good sized dip in the road, the shackle would "flip" forward too far and jam the spring like that....about 4" higher on that side until you hit another bump!!




There are different front hangers for Dodge and Plymouth (Dodge ones are longer) maybe he had Plymouth ones in and made the spring too short. I'd be curious to know what spring #'s he had. I know one part # says shackle must be relocated if used in a B body. This is my old 69 Bee with 3400lb ss springs.

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Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: DPelletier] #1072530
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needless to say; the SS springs reside in my "paid a bunch of money for stuff that is never going to get used" pile!



Dave





I know this is an old thread, but do you stll have the ss "spring hardware"

Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: 383man] #1072531
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3400 lb SS springs on my 63 I bought from Mancini. And it dont ride like a dump truck. It rides great and hooks good at the track for the rest of the suspension being stock. I would bet it rides as good as any Mopar on HD leaf springs. It dont bounce all over it just rides normal. Ron




Same here.

The rear sat kinda high initially but once I got more weight in the car and they settled down, they're not that high at all.

Mine rides nice as well. Not as well as the air-ride in my Park Avenue, but not bad at all.

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Mopar S/S springs are the one "old tech" part that I won't use. For one thing I don't like the way the car doesn't sit straight from one side to the other with them and when I seen Dave's fiasco (in person) I couldn't believe it. I used to spend a lot of my paycheques buying Direct Connection and Mopar Performance stuff but after many expensive lessons I haven't spent a dime on MP stuff for several years.
Just run Cal Tracs and be done with it.

Sheldon





Every car I put SS springs sits crooked at first. Then I adjust the torsion bars to make them sit level. That works fine on all of them I have put SS springs on including my 63. I figure because of how the springs work is why they sit crooked at first. Ron




Yes, you WILL have to do some torsion bar adjustments to get it level again. No biggie. I set mine up the way the Chassis manual says to.

I have hard street Goodyears on the back right now so the car doesn't hook worth a crap but, according to my neighbor that's watched the car launch, the car is reacting the way it should to plant the rears.

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My Satellite with 3800 lb SS springs, Flipped hangers, and custom lowering/ pinion angle blocks. Stiff ride but no problem for me and works well at the strip. My car sits right down over a 26.5" rear tire. Without the blocks it sat too high.


Re: Mopar Leaf Springs... Heavy Duty vs Super Stock [Re: 383man] #1072534
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One thing not mentioned is that the current MP SS springs will put the shackle at a bad angle (leaning from front to back versus the correct back to front).


2 clarify 4 me should the BOTTOM of the rear vertical shackle b to the rear?


didn't we do this before? yes, pointing towards the bumper. \




Haha! Thanks for clarifying. I re-read what I wrote and I didn't have a clear reference. The shackle eye of the spring should be rearward of the body side of the shackle. My SS springs were just the opposite, which is not good.





If you have the wrong angle at the rear shackle then you have thge wrong springs on the car. That happened when my buddies Dodge has the Plymouth springs on it. Plymouth has a shorter wheelbase. Put the right springs on it and it fixed it. Ron



Let me ax a question, were the XHD springs different between Dodge and Plymouth? I bought a set back in 75 from a junk yard, and don't know what they came out of. I have them under a 71 RR with repo front and rear hangers.

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