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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: JERICOGTX] #1063984
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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: slantzilla] #1063985
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.

Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: jim sciortino] #1063986
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.




You know the first time I read this I said COME ON IT GO A BLOWER! But the more I think of it Chrysler did the same thing in 68, purposely built drag cars to dominate.
They did for over 40 years.
It is now the time for Chrysler to set up and come out with something.

If they dont then all the hemi barracuda will be drag racing in nostalgic type events.

Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: jim sciortino] #1063987
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.




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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: MattW] #1063988
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You know the first time I read this I said COME ON IT GO A BLOWER! But the more I think of it Chrysler did the same thing in 68, purposely built drag cars to dominate.
They did for over 40 years.
It is now the time for Chrysler to set up and come out with something.

If they dont then all the hemi barracuda will be drag racing in nostalgic type events.




Exactly. Chrysler built cars to dominate drag racing in the 60's. It's not the 60's anymore. Right now the Stock/Super Stock Challengers aren't in the same leauge as the Mustangs- if they want to regain dominance it's time to slap a blower or a turbo on a 6.4 Hemi and sell it as a factory SS package, instead of the V10 with a powerglide. Don't knock Ford for building the CJ's and going faster, blame Chrysler for not being progressive and changing with the times. It's not like a supercharged pony car is a new concept.


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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: Blusmbl] #1063989
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You know the first time I read this I said COME ON IT GO A BLOWER! But the more I think of it Chrysler did the same thing in 68, purposely built drag cars to dominate.
They did for over 40 years.
It is now the time for Chrysler to set up and come out with something.

If they dont then all the hemi barracuda will be drag racing in nostalgic type events.




Exactly. Chrysler built cars to dominate drag racing in the 60's. It's not the 60's anymore. Right now the Sitock/Super Stock Challengers aren't in the same leauge as the Mustangs- if they want to regain dominance it's time to slap a blower or a turbo on a 6.4 Hemi and sell it as a factory SS package, instead of the V10 with a powerglide. Don't knock Ford for building the CJ's and going faster, blame Chrysler for not being progressive and changing with the times. It's not like a supercharged pony car is a new concept.






Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: MattW] #1063990
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.






I agree, and quite frankyly, factory or not, I don't find blown cars in any "stock" class to be very interesting, and certainly nothing to stack up against a NA car regardless of the brand, as mentioned, apples to oranges. For me it's NA to NA or nothing.


Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: jim sciortino] #1063991
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.


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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: MattW] #1063992
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You know the first time I read this I said COME ON IT GO A BLOWER! But the more I think of it Chrysler did the same thing in 68, purposely built drag cars to dominate.
They did for over 40 years.
It is now the time for Chrysler to set up and come out with something.

If they dont then all the hemi barracuda will be drag racing in nostalgic type events.




It's been many years since the '86 Hemi cars dominated anything but their own class. They are hard to make consistent, expensive to maintain, and even harder to bracket race in the eliminator, just like any top level class car.

The AH cars will always have their own class, they are in no danger of going away. Unfortunately, they will no longer be the showcase class, and in a class that thrives on ego feeding, that will be what makes them go away.

The big losers are the Vette and T-Bolt guys who worked their butts off to get into SS/AA. All they can do is wait until the CJ cars get hit enough they are out of AA. (And it will happen)

An SS car was in the 7's a few years ago, but I think Gallina was in SS/AS or something like that, so no one really cared.


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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: MattW] #1063993
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You know the first time I read this I said COME ON IT GO A BLOWER! But the more I think of it Chrysler did the same thing in 68, purposely built drag cars to dominate.
They did for over 40 years.
It is now the time for Chrysler to set up and come out with something.

If they dont then all the hemi barracuda will be drag racing in nostalgic type events.




Exactly. Chrysler built cars to dominate drag racing in the 60's. It's not the 60's anymore. Right now the Sitock/Super Stock Challengers aren't in the same leauge as the Mustangs- if they want to regain dominance it's time to slap a blower or a turbo on a 6.4 Hemi and sell it as a factory SS package, instead of the V10 with a powerglide. Don't knock Ford for building the CJ's and going faster, blame Chrysler for not being progressive and changing with the times. It's not like a supercharged pony car is a new concept.








x2 well said.Were r not in the 60's anymore

Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1063994
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.






I agree, and quite frankyly, factory or not, I don't find blown cars in any "stock" class to be very interesting, and certainly nothing to stack up against a NA car regardless of the brand, as mentioned, apples to oranges. For me it's NA to NA or nothing.






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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: cgall] #1063995
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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: 383man] #1063996
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I give Ford credit for these cars. I would love to see a screw blown 6.1 HEMI Challenger, but comparing these cars is apples to Count Chocula.

The screw HEMI in my street car went 1600+ on Barton's DTS at a measly 20# of boost, with carbs and gas. No big deal in this day and age. I get stinkin' chili dogs with it.

If an iron SS engine from the dawn of time, can push a 43+ year old barn door to low 8s, then a boosted SS car in a slippery shell should be a second quicker. Let me know when the Fords are running low 7s.

Power adders are fun especially when ya can't get it done N/A.

Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: 383man] #1063997
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I repeat, boosted 4 cylinders in swoopy new body styles run fast.

Big deal.

Run 7s in a 40+ year old billboard, N/A-iron heads....THEN ya got a little somethin'.

Until then...........YAWN.






I agree, and quite frankyly, factory or not, I don't find blown cars in any "stock" class to be very interesting, and certainly nothing to stack up against a NA car regardless of the brand, as mentioned, apples to oranges. For me it's NA to NA or nothing.






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I am thinking about the old classes, when a blower moved the car to a different class. Like the old gassers, and doesn't Bonneville do the same?
I think it's cool the new blown cars are fast. I just don't think they should compete heads up with NA cars.


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Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: Hemi Allstate] #1063998
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How much do the Mustangs weight in SS trim?

Re: Superstock Hemi vs. Cobrajet Heads Up! [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1063999
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i will say this those mustangs are bad a$$ and i give ford prop's for thinking outside the box.but they shuold be in a class of there own!!.how the heck is it fair to put a boosted car in the same class as a non boosted car?it's just nhra'sway of running off all the older cars.you ask why do they want to run off all the older car's?? money!!.they want never car's the younger croud can reconize and relate to.they are chasing the almighty dollar.

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