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Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062683
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. Can't wait to hear more. When are you going back out?

Re: Track report ! [Re: AndyF] #1062684
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Andy, with all due respect, didn't you just say in your last HP forum that the new Holley 950 was too big for any thing smaller than a 512 or some thing like that? 383 is running a 493 Cubic incher.

As far as Dominators, they are fine with most biggie blocks, but very few have made the magic number with them on a true street driven car like 383 as well as mine. I mean his 493 is very small compared to what's out there nowadays. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe there's a guru out there that can take the new Holley and make it run with his combo and still act civil on the street.

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Way to go, Ron, .41 quicker IIRC with only a SWAG jet-change. There's a 10 in your immediate future, using the 850. A while back there was a thread about a 4150-body 1050CFM Holley, don't recall whose but it sounded promising.

Re: Track report ! [Re: topside] #1062686
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That is awesome, but it scares me that you have driven it that far with it possibly being too lean.

Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062687
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Yes I drove to the track tonight and put 2 passes on my 63. I had some problems and found out it was way lean.
First pass it just would not rev good and felt real flat......11.27 @ 113 !

Yuk but my brother was watching and he said it looked good as it pulled about 6 inches under the front wheels but I said it felt real bad. I had just stuck the 850 DP on that was on my old 440 and I knew it needed more carb but I used what I had. Well we pulled the 80 primary jets and put 86's in. Car started fine and idled fine. Next and final pass for the night.........11.04 @ 121.42. Ok we made a drastic jet change to find out we are going in the right direction. We were going to pull the secondary bowl but I decided to call it a night as my back was hurting alot and my left knee was giving me alot of pain and I was not up to any more work. So I called it a night telling myself that 11.04 @ 121 is not to bad for the second ever pass on my pump gas full exh 3700 lb street car that I drove the 90 mile round trip. I will pull the carb and work it over this week. I wish I had a Dominator or a nice 950 to try but I will use what I have. I honestly think it has easy 10.80's or better and I hope to find out soon. I know I could have jetted the secondary side and came home with a 10.9 something pass but I was just not up to it. I had fun and hope to get back to the track in a month or so. Ron




Hey ron great job. 11.04 is the same et i ran last saturday but for some reasion they were not giving 1/4 mile mph. so could you post what your 1/8 et and mph were also ypour 60ft. sounds like there is alot more in it.Mopar65


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Re: Track report ! [Re: mopar65] #1062688
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Re: Track report ! [Re: hemi-itis] #1062689
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Great first outing Ron!


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Re: Track report ! [Re: Chargerfan68] #1062690
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Congratulations Ron!! Great job with the new motor and very nice times so far. 10's are in the bag. Was that Cecil that you ran at?

Best of luck with you new motor.









Yes that was Cecil. It actually started getting much more humid out that evening. Ron


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Re: Track report ! [Re: wheelsup68dart] #1062691
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That is awesome, but it scares me that you have driven it that far with it possibly being too lean.





I have only driven it on the street where it felt fine driving normal. I would hit it a little once in a while but not really putting it to the floor and leaving it there as it felt fine even with a quick nailing the throttle. It had 80's and 86's in it with a 3.5 P/V up front. It drove fine going home and has not overheated or has no ping so I dont think it hurt anything. Ron

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Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062692
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Thanks for all the kind replies. Here is the rest of the #'s:


60 - 1.57
330 - 4.157
1/8 - 7.012
mph - 97.88
1000 - 9.189
1/4 - 11.044
mph - 121.42


I will have to stick with the 850 DP for now but I will jet the secondary up some and may even mill the choke air horn off. Thanks again for the replies. Ron

Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062693
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Nice first outing Ron For sure there's lots more in it

Fwiw, mine made best power with 34* total timing using the EZ heads so that might be something to consider



Ron

Re: Track report ! [Re: firefighter3931] #1062694
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Nice job, buddy!

Pretty sure a Pro-systems tweaked 1000HP like on mine would suit your very similar combo, I'd imagine you could put that thing solidly in the 10.65 range or better once you're sorted. That Max Wedge dual plane really likes a lot of CFM and traction/torque is definately going to be a chassis tuning challenge to really plant all the ET potential you're going to bring.


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Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062695
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good job Ron. 10's are in reach easy. Makes me want to step it up a bit on my ride...lol


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Re: Track report ! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1062696
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Great first time out! You know you have a street ride that will run in the 10's, so I say well done! You can buy a new intake and a dominator and maybe pick up a tenth or two after tweaking and spending a grand. If it were me, I would just keep the nice street carb 850 and dial it in at the track next time out.


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Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062697
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From what I recall you posting of the combination, I'd have expected more MPH, even w/ a chassis that wasn't hooking. Where is your timing set and how lean is that 850?

Re: Track report ! [Re: BradH] #1062698
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Brad it was pretty lean. I was hoping to do more like 125 which I hope it will once I jet some more and mess with the timing. It was definetly still lean as it was holding back and even popping in the top of the gears. Ron

Re: Track report ! [Re: 383man] #1062699
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Hi Ron, you want to borrow my 950 proform that is on my 493? has been 10 teens on my pump gas muff. motor in the demon.Let me know.
Tom.

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Hi Ron, you want to borrow my 950 proform that is on my 493? has been 10 teens on my pump gas muff. motor in the demon.Let me know.
Tom.




Thanks Tom but my buddy just told me about an hr ago to try his 950 Proform. So when I go back to the track I will run the 850 and then the 950. He told me if I like the 950 to keep it on the car as he wants to put the 850 back on his car which is a street car that he never races. Ron

Re: Track report ! [Re: ZIPPY] #1062701
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[quote

6" wheelies are pretty good for a street car




Wow, isn't that re truth! Awesome run Ron.

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11.04 @ 121 ? AWESOME!! There's a bit MORE
in your combo Ron and to say 10.9's, would be on the conservative side! Take care of your back, feel better and "KEEP ON MAXIN' 'EM"!!



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