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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: 1969RR]
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08/25/11 09:36 AM
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JohnRR
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Hey guys, I'm sure I had crank at 12 cam at 12 o'clock when I stabbed the dist. I checked #1 at TDC, crank damp was lined up at zero and when I pulled dist cap, rotor was at #1. Would it even run 180 out? I'm leaning toward timing. Thanks, Jeff
You have it right , the engine doesn't care where you drop in the oil pump drive as long as the rotor is pointing at the tower your number 1 wire is on at the top of the compression stroke and the wires go in the right direction and order.
And NO the engine will not run if you are 180 out OR if you put the wires on in the wrong rotation direction.
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: JohnRR]
#1062381
08/25/11 09:54 AM
08/25/11 09:54 AM
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I will have to disagree on the placement of dist drive gear. I thought that also quite a few years back. If the slot is not line up straight (slot front-back)and the # 1 is not in the position it is called for on the dist. cap it will crank up and run but not right. I know you may not think this will help,but it will only take you a few mins. to try this. If anyone else is not running theirs timed this way,try it and if does not run better feel free to send me all the Hate mail you want. 
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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08/25/11 10:07 AM
08/25/11 10:07 AM
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MR_P_BODY
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I will have to disagree on the placement of dist drive gear. I thought that also quite a few years back. If the slot is not line up straight (slot front-back)and the # 1 is not in the position it is called for on the dist. cap it will crank up and run but not right.
I know you may not think this will help,but it will only take you a few mins. to try this.
If anyone else is not running theirs timed this way,try it and if does not run better feel free to send me all the Hate mail you want.
You can point the rotor to ANY tower on the cap and
it'll run perfect if you start the firing order from
that point... I dont ever locate mine the way the
factory says... I point the rotor to #1 plug/cyl
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
#1062383
08/25/11 10:19 AM
08/25/11 10:19 AM
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Walton's Mountain, Pa
Steve1118
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Going to have to disagree. With the cross rams we ran in the past, with a tach drive distributor, it was necessary to move the gear a tooth or two one way or the other so that the tach drive would clear the intake. As long as we moved the plug wires to match, it was fine.
This may sound stupid, but the main question, lack of revs...I'm assuming you have sufficient piston to valve clearance?
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1062385
08/25/11 10:39 AM
08/25/11 10:39 AM
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I will have to disagree on the placement of dist drive gear. I thought that also quite a few years back. If the slot is not line up straight (slot front-back)and the # 1 is not in the position it is called for on the dist. cap it will crank up and run but not right.
I know you may not think this will help,but it will only take you a few mins. to try this.
If anyone else is not running theirs timed this way,try it and if does not run better feel free to send me all the Hate mail you want.
You can point the rotor to ANY tower on the cap and
it'll run perfect if you start the firing order from
that point... I dont ever locate mine the way the
factory says... I point the rotor to #1 plug/cyl
 
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
#1062387
08/25/11 10:52 AM
08/25/11 10:52 AM
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Anderson, IN
1969RR
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When you set up the cam timing was the crank keyway straight up or was it offset to approximately the 1:30 position.... Stupid question but I've seen it do exactly what your dealing with four times...
Hello! Crank key-way was at about 1:30 if I recall. Jeff
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: sixpackgut]
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08/25/11 12:57 PM
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Wonder if he has the dial right on the digital box ...
Mopar Performance
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: sixpackgut]
#1062394
08/25/11 01:26 PM
08/25/11 01:26 PM
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sounds like the 6 and 8 spark plug wires mixed up to me 
I would have said 5 and 7.. they're next to each other
and next in the firing... I've made this mistake
before when I was rushing to get to the lanes
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: B1MAXX]
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08/25/11 01:38 PM
08/25/11 01:38 PM
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Jeepmon
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Valves are set too tight 
That was my thought..
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Re: New 512 stroker build, ZERO power!
[Re: Dunnuck Racing]
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08/25/11 01:45 PM
08/25/11 01:45 PM
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I typed a very long P.M. and for some reason it did not go through.
Basically,it was just an offer for some help if you want it,I think you are down around Muncie?
I am close to South Bend. Just let me know,some sometimes it helps to just have someone else look at it with a fresh pair of eyes and ears especially when you are frustrated.
Keith
Isnt that the truth.... I've been there... and the more
I get frustrated the worse things get(and things
start getting broke  )
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