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#1057904 - 08/20/11 07:52 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: HotRodDave]
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The sales volume thing is BS because eddy does make the dual quad one with a more complicated casting and less people are gonna use it than they would a single 4. I am not oposed to paying more than a chevy guy for similar parts but this is out in left field even for mopar. Heck even the mopar single 4 not drag-pak intake is $1000 that is FOUR times the price of the chevy one not just double even




Well I guess you can get out your tig welder and make one
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#1057905 - 08/20/11 08:31 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: MattW]
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Instead of complaining, there's market opportunity, make the investment and develop, manufacture & sell an affordable intake.




my attempt




LOL If the runners line up use a block of wood. Plus you get the thermo break.LOL

I will be flowing the Apache heads in the near future same flow bench as before. Matt




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#1057906 - 08/21/11 12:48 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: HotRodDave]
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So aparently Indy makes one that is the cheapest, they call it a "Mod-Man" and it comes with removable tops to put whatever carb I want on it, any one ever use one of those? How do they do with fuel distribution at lower engine speeds on a stockish 5.7 engine?
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#1057907 - 08/21/11 07:21 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: HotRodDave]
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i have a PM sent to TR Waters asking if he has already has a design to adapt an early hemi intake to the GEN 3 engines. i believe he does and if so you can run this intake


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#1057908 - 08/21/11 08:31 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: sixpackgut]
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Instead of complaining, there's market opportunity, make the investment and develop, manufacture & sell an affordable intake.




my attempt




LOL If the runners line up use a block of wood. Plus you get the thermo break.LOL

I will be flowing the Apache heads in the near future same flow bench as before. Matt



OK I'm confused, what intake is that for? P7?




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#1057909 - 08/21/11 08:43 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: MattW]
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Not to get into a "who copied whom" debate, these are the intakes my buddy had cast about 5 years ago. He is now making them with a carb top plate. And he was also the first with the tall cast valve covers.
The 2x4 piece is just something I had laying around, so I threw it on that intake.


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#1057910 - 08/21/11 08:50 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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#1057911 - 08/21/11 09:06 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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The P7 intake is quite narrow, and would require a very thick adapter to make it work. Arrington used one on their first carb build. A SP2P intake is wider , but still not as wide as the 1st gen hemi.

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#1057912 - 08/21/11 11:16 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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SO that is interesting I guess it brings up the question how much is that dual plane intake? Who makes it? and how much are the red spacer thingies?
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#1057913 - 08/21/11 11:55 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: HotRodDave]
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The dual plane that Ray posted is from Hot Heads. It lists for $315.00. The problem is, there is no way to make spacers which would incorporate both the gen3 and gen1 bolt patterns. This is why I did mine like I did. One common bolt pattern. Unless you have your own milling machine and tig set-up, you will end up with the $600 or so that the XV intake would cost you.

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#1057914 - 08/21/11 12:12 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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The dual plane that Ray posted is from Hot Heads. It lists for $315.00. The problem is, there is no way to make spacers which would incorporate both the gen3 and gen1 bolt patterns. This is why I did mine like I did. One common bolt pattern. Unless you have your own milling machine and tig set-up, you will end up with the $600 or so that the XV intake would cost you.




Tom, I'm not a big fan of the XV for a N/A motor unless its built for RPM. Dyno'd a 5.7 truck intake, 6.1 SRT8 intake and the XV one day. The truck intake and 6.1 were pretty much neck n neck. The XV was such a pooch that the dyno operator asked me go into the room to check and make sure the throttle blade was opened up all the way.


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#1057915 - 08/21/11 12:48 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: hemidup]
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Jerry,
Just an observation, but seems the gen3 hemi likes those long intake runners. I'll stick to my old stuff.

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#1057916 - 08/21/11 12:56 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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Jerry,
Just an observation, but seems the gen3 hemi likes those long intake runners. I'll stick to my old stuff.




Tom, Love your old stuff too. I never did do a back to back dyno with your Gen 3 Hemi intake spacers. All I know is that your custom 1/2" spacer increased the runner length by a 1/2". A 1/2" is the difference between OOOOH and AHAAA. lol
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#1057917 - 08/21/11 01:00 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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Are those parts avaliable and for sale?
I really like the front cover with the dist.

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#1057918 - 08/21/11 02:12 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: TrWaters]
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Jerry,
Just an observation, but seems the gen3 hemi likes those long intake runners. I'll stick to my old stuff.



Easiest way to explain it is to flow an exhaust port with a generic header on it even with cold air the temp rise in the header a the first bend is remarkable. That why Dyno headers usually product more.
Truck intake and 6.1 are great for EFI but would run poor if the mixture had to go throught it. That is why the jiggle juice doesn't work so well with those intakes.
IMO a composite intake like the dragpack intake with different heights would work well.
the more i research this the more I am leaning to EFI.
U can pick an 09 to present composite intake from dodge for 214.00.

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#1057919 - 08/21/11 02:43 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: sshemi]
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Are those parts avaliable and for sale?
I really like the front cover with the dist.




It was all just a personal experiment. Way too costly to produce.....or reproduce....just to say you have a distributor. Cheaper to buy an intake and carb, add the MSD ignition box and go.

I am not sure what my buddy is using for electronics in this car. It is a 671 BDS with EFI.


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#1057920 - 08/22/11 07:41 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: HotRodDave]
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The sales volume thing is BS because eddy does make the dual quad one with a more complicated casting and less people are gonna use it than they would a single 4. I am not oposed to paying more than a chevy guy for similar parts but this is out in left field even for mopar. Heck even the mopar single 4 not drag-pak intake is $1000 that is FOUR times the price of the chevy one not just double even




step up to the 1990's and run efi with the stock intake
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#1057921 - 08/22/11 09:01 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: patrick]
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The sales volume thing is BS because eddy does make the dual quad one with a more complicated casting and less people are gonna use it than they would a single 4. I am not oposed to paying more than a chevy guy for similar parts but this is out in left field even for mopar. Heck even the mopar single 4 not drag-pak intake is $1000 that is FOUR times the price of the chevy one not just double even




step up to the 1990's and run efi with the stock intake




that would require a wardrode change and i cant afford that!
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#1057922 - 08/22/11 05:54 PM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: sixpackgut]
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Still costs way more than a carb set up would, even the eddy with two carbs

I think I am gonna look into the mod-man intake, I am concerned with low speed fuel distribution but it looks to be the cheapest way
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#1057923 - 08/23/11 07:50 AM Re: Eddy single 4 intake for 5.7 ?? [Re: HotRodDave]
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Still costs way more than a carb set up would, even the eddy with two carbs

I think I am gonna look into the mod-man intake, I am concerned with low speed fuel distribution but it looks to be the cheapest way




even taking into account the $800 spark computer for the distributorless ignition?
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