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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: cdp]
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07/30/11 09:52 PM
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I would think the engine paint would not stick to the manifolds with the gear oil on it.
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
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07/30/11 10:12 PM
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All engines were assembled with the manifolds on them,then painted. As we all know,the paint on the manifolds lasted not long after being driven. So,the "correct" look is..paint burned off and bare metal. For those who prefer opening the hood like a jewelery box,using POR-15,or Eastwood's manifold paint is better looking than rusty exhaust manifolds. Many of us have done tons of detailing under the hood and the products mentioned above have become acceptable in the hobby In the past,I gave my logs a good blast of glass beading for the "au-natural look,LOL!As time went by they showed there true age. This time I am using the POR-15.    
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/30/11 10:33 PM
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I also wondered if paint would stick to a manifold that was dipped in gear oil. My guess is that it probably would stick since you burn off the excess with a torch first. Maybe I'll get to that stage this winter...I said that last summer too.  The few parts I've used RPM on, seem slightly waxy after they have cooled off. I don't think the paint is going to work. Maybe the RPM could be applied after the mounting flanges have been painted? I guess both ways are worth a try.
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: burdar]
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07/30/11 10:54 PM
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I also wondered if paint would stick to a manifold that was dipped in gear oil. My guess is that it probably would stick since you burn off the excess with a torch first. Maybe I'll get to that stage this winter...I said that last summer too.
The few parts I've used RPM on, seem slightly waxy after they have cooled off. I don't think the paint is going to work. Maybe the RPM could be applied after the mounting flanges have been painted? I guess both ways are worth a try.
If you put the paint on and then the RPM, you are kinda defeating the purpose of putting the RPM on since the painted area will burn off and then rust leaving the other are with the RPM nice and clean. Also, I wonder how well the RPM will hold up to the extreme heat? My guess is that with the constant heat, it will thin out like when you apply the stuff on a heated part and then run off causing a mess. If it doesn't then I know what I am doing next winter!
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
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07/30/11 10:57 PM
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Never tried it myself but I have heard of rubbing them with graphite after blasting. Supposedly they don't rust and still retain the cast look.
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
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07/30/11 11:27 PM
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If you clean and paint the inside of the manifolds with ceramic header coating it should help slow down, or even prevent, the paint from burning off. My brother plays around with oldsmobiles and like all the B.O.P. family of engines the exhaust ports are cast outside the main cylinder head architecture which pretty much guarantees the engine paint will burn off before the engine is even broken in. He just freshened up a 350 olds a few weeks back and before he put the heads back together he applied header coating all the way up inside the exhaust ports. So far all the paint on the outside of the heads is still in perfect shape. I think if you sprayed the inside of a set of manifolds as far up inside them as possible it might help the resto overspray last a lot longer on a car that will be driven. Here is a pic I found of a Pontiac engine that shows what typically happens to the engine paint on at the exhaust ports right in front of where the manifolds, or in this case headers, bolt to. 
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: Neil]
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07/30/11 11:49 PM
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If you put the paint on and then the RPM, you are kinda defeating the purpose of putting the RPM on since the painted area will burn off and then rust leaving the other are with the RPM nice and clean.
That's why I thought you could just paint the mounting flanges instead of the entire manifold. The paint doesn't burn off of there anyway. You may be able to re-apply the RPM to the hot manifolds shortly after breakin...before the manifolds start to rust.(covering up any areas where the paint did burn off) This hasn't been tried before so I'm just thinking out loud I guess.
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: cdp]
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07/31/11 07:34 AM
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Well....I went with the gear oil route. We'll see what happens. Won't get fired back up for a week, but I'm expecting a little bit-O-Smoke from the process. Here is a pic of the mock-up.
A LITTLE bit of smoke ...  ... it going to all burn off and leave a nasty looking residue on them.
good luck 
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
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07/31/11 07:15 PM
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I use the Easrwoods then let it dry . Later I install them on the engin befor paint and paint over the Eastwood coating and the engin at the same time. Most of the paint will burn off leaving just the eastwood coating and some overspray. The engin in the pic has been already run .
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
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07/31/11 07:59 PM
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I use the Easrwoods then let it dry . Later I install them on the engin befor paint and paint over the Eastwood coating and the engin at the same time. Most of the paint will burn off leaving just the eastwood coating and some overspray. The engin in the pic has been already run .
This is what I did also.
Larry
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: DennisH ]
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08/21/11 12:17 PM
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Headers. Less weight. Better sound. Better performance.
This doesn't answer the OP's original question , but then again this IS moparts ... 
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Re: exhaust manifolds, no paint..resto..
[Re: lahatte]
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08/22/11 05:34 PM
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Wait... PS and FAST? Who is this? 800hp with manifolds?
http://www.fastraces.org/
The top FAST cars are over 800hp with manifolds....kinda debunks the theory that you need headers to make power.......waiting for the "but they'd make more with headers" comments in 3, 2 , 1....
Dave
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