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Re: subframe connectors [Re: dOc !] #1041764 07/28/11 11:37 AM 07/28/11 11:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct A AdamR master
AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Doc, put a cork in it all ready

Re: subframe connectors [Re: AdamR] #1041765 07/28/11 11:50 AM 07/28/11 11:50 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	Hay AR ... the "cork" was in-it .... then came the ... ......

Re: subframe connectors [Re: dOc !] #1041766 07/28/11 11:55 AM 07/28/11 11:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,893 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,893 United Socialist States of Ame...	Come on guys...Keep it civil.. Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: subframe connectors [Re: tboomer] #1041767 07/28/11 12:44 PM 07/28/11 12:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,748 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,748 A collage of whims	These older cars are so flexible that almost any added structure is a noticeable improvement in rigidity. A case in point: I had a '73 Nova hatchback and a '73 Z28 - likely less rigid than a Mopar due to the GM separate rubber-mounted ft subframe - and I put a pair of those bolt-on Competition Engineering connectors on each car. The improvement was VERY noticeable; the Z28 cornered more predictably (it was pretty much a SoCal canyon-runner) and the Nova quit creaking and was MUCH more solid. I'm sure both would have been even better properly welded & tied into the floor, but the point is even the simplest stiffening was a big improvement. FWIW I know of another car that has welded-in round tubing connectors and the round tubing still allows a little flex; IMO, square or rectangular tubing works better.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: tboomer] #1041768 07/28/11 12:53 PM 07/28/11 12:53 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN GTXKen super gas
GTXKen super gas Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,968 North Riverside IL & Lowell IN	This topic seems to come up once a week and always seems to create so much tension and its really simple. There are many solutions availiable, some simpler than others. Do a search and look at all the examples and then choose one that meets your specific needs/driving habits/usage of the car. I used the Mancini weld in/bolt in and welded them in. My car is street driven with an occasional track visit or burn out. There is nearly no flex when I jack up one corner.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: GTXKen] #1041769 07/28/11 01:12 PM 07/28/11 01:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,076 Berlin, N.J. A abodyjoe I Live Here
abodyjoe I Live Here A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,076 Berlin, N.J.	i followed these directions. supplies were something like $25. they were easy to make and install.. http://www.bigblockdart.com/techpages/connectors.shtml . It's better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression that you're stupid than to open it and remove all doubt. www.MoparMisfits.com

Re: subframe connectors [Re: Challenger 1] #1041770 07/28/11 01:46 PM 07/28/11 01:46 PM
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Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: Quote: You will find ALL SORTS of flex just doing it that way... LIFT UP one corner .... and see for yourself... BS How would you know?? I did my connectors the same way, night and day difference. If I place a jack under the diff on one side it attempts to lift the whole side of the car. I would say they are very helpful.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: 68Bullit] #1041771 07/28/11 01:48 PM 07/28/11 01:48 PM
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Mopar_Country pro stock Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,216 Under My Car	Quote: I know some connectors are pretty detailed with the custom fitting ridges, etc, but I'm just looking for some bolt-on or weld on straight square connectors. Anybody sell these fairly inexpensively? Also, has anyone made their own???? I made my own for around 36 bucks in material. A little cut here and a weld there, and I'm good to go. Follow the link Joe provided, that's how I did mine, works well.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: dOc !] #1041772 07/28/11 02:52 PM 07/28/11 02:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	Quote: Hay AR ... the "cork" was in-it .... then came the ... ...... No, you are just an irritating aspect of Moparts at this point. Your input means nothing and your on again-off again CAPS LOCK malfunction is getting OLD. Let 'er rip...

Re: subframe connectors [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #1041773 07/28/11 03:12 PM 07/28/11 03:12 PM
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aquamist60 enthusiast Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 248 Ohio	On my '73 Duster we cut the rear frame clip in front & back open, used (been a long time) I "think 3"x2" mild steel" And opened the front frame clip and drove it all the way through as 1 piece. Then welded everything closed and around the new connector. Welded everyplace that touched the floor. You could tell a difference as soon as the car was started, very solid. Opened the floor & welded the cage bars to the connectors. Not street driven anymore. Took a '67 Coronet Stock eliminator car, but used C/M tube and did it very similar. Both cars are very rigid now. Don't remember the dia. of the tube, but it just did go in with some "inspiration" while it was up on a lift. Think it took about a days worth of labor start to finish.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #1041774 07/28/11 03:18 PM 07/28/11 03:18 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	Quote: No, you are just an irritating aspect of Moparts at this point. Let 'er rip... ....you don't like it ? ...change-the-channel(don't read it - what-the-hell - if you find it that offensive USE the ignore feature). That is what most people that have over a room-temperature IQ do.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: MonGoo$e] #1041775 07/28/11 10:31 PM 07/28/11 10:31 PM
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68Bullit OP mopar Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 571 Western NC	Quote: much to the chagrin of everyone here i got the MagnumForce double tube style ones. Bolt on each end and to the floors. I just finished looking at the Magnum Force website and this is what I think I'll go with. Do you notice a difference? And can you tell when you lift one corner of the car up?

Re: subframe connectors [Re: dOc !] #1041776 07/28/11 11:27 PM 07/28/11 11:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	Quote: That is what most people that have over a room-temperature IQ do. You haven't been important enough to take the time to ignore... I guess now that you're on my ignore list you've moved up a rung! Congrats.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #1041777 07/29/11 12:28 AM 07/29/11 12:28 AM
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kilroy super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan	Made my own on my '73 charger, used 1x3 rectangle tube. Welded from where frame horn for rear meets the cross frame (?) on the chassis to where the front frames meet the torsion bar cross member. My crappy former 18 year old selfs welding skills weren't very good but they made an IMMEDIATE difference. They are not straight, or should say parallel, with the rockers because the frame rail come in at different places but I thought it would make more sense to put a direct link between those frame pieces. Cost me little to nothing and they DONT hang down at all! you have to look up from the pinch point of the rockers to see them. Make your own, quick, easy, and cheap. You don't have to cut up the floors like everyone tries to convince you. Its not a roll cage. 6752045-0728112219.jpg (95 downloads) 1973 Charger, former SE, former auto I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....

Re: subframe connectors [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #1041778 07/29/11 03:06 AM 07/29/11 03:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,424 Florida STAYcation	Quote: Quote: That is what most people that have over a room-temperature IQ do. You haven't been important enough to take the time to ignore... I guess now that you're on my ignore list you've moved up a rung! Congrats. Now ME ignore YOU ? ...never happen. It still amazes me how someone WHO SAYS they are going to dental school ...can be so brain-dead.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: dOc !] #1041779 07/29/11 08:08 AM 07/29/11 08:08 AM
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DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	Weld them or don't bother.

Re: subframe connectors [Re: DennisH ] #1041780 07/29/11 08:28 AM 07/29/11 08:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan kilroy super stock
kilroy super stock Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 862 Iowa State fan	Quote: Weld them or don't bother. 1973 Charger, former SE, former auto I'm not trying to be difficult, it comes naturally....

Re: subframe connectors [Re: DennisH ] #1041781 07/29/11 08:30 AM 07/29/11 08:30 AM
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rapom top fuel R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,883 Northern OH	Ditto

Re: subframe connectors [Re: rapom] #1041782 07/29/11 10:32 AM 07/29/11 10:32 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,462 Mrytle Beach SC J johnscudashop pro stock
johnscudashop pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,462 Mrytle Beach SC	Those custom made boxed frame connectors look good guys..On the US car tool subfrsme connectors. The install was not to bad, some trimming was required . It took me 2 or 3 hrs to get them fitted. I like the way they look (they look kinda factory) and the fact you dont have to cut into the floor board. The extra support being welded to the floor pan don't hurt either .I would do it again . 6752397-100_1750.jpg (221 downloads)

Re: subframe connectors [Re: johnscudashop] #1041783 07/30/11 06:28 PM 07/30/11 06:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	depending on what class your in for scca rules only allow bolt-in connectors - not welded in. Thats only if your running in autox...and if you care.. Last edited by dangina; 07/30/11 06:29 PM.

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