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Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... #1038420
07/23/11 01:23 PM
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I was just on Firm Feel's site investigating a future purchase and noticed the 20:1 and 16:1 manual boxes are no longer available.

Anyone know why?

Maggot


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Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: ChickMaggot] #1038421
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call them up and ask,they are a nice bunch and if they have one left over you just might get it.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: ChickMaggot] #1038422
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I had no idea they were not avail. Cant speak on how it'd b on the street but on our circle burner going from manual 24:1 to 16:1 was a night/day improvement. b 4 that my hands were all over the place


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Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: RapidRobert] #1038423
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if you get the 16-1 be sure and get a gym membership to go with it.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: ChickMaggot] #1038424
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Whoever was making the gears decided not to make them anymore. Happens all the time. Low volume stuff doesn't pay the bills so the products get turned off when the tooling wears out.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: ChickMaggot] #1038425
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Flaming River has a Mopar manual 16:1 box for A,B,E applications PN# 1540 $500

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: DAYCLONA] #1038426
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Quote:

Flaming River has a Mopar manual 16:1 box for A,B,E applications PN# 1540 $500




Bummer is that it has a heavier cast iron case than the factory aluminum case.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: autoxcuda] #1038427
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I believe the box is cast iron, but stronger. Old school look, aluminum case and cheaper cost to build compared to flaming river and you will see why folks want those boxes in that ratio.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: migsBIG] #1038428
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mancini used to offer the 20:1 worm gear i bought one and some new seals and bearings did my box. not sure if they still have it though. i thought the wieght difference in the flaming river box and factory was only a few pounds, 3 or 4?

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: JAMESDART] #1038429
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i had a firm feel 16-1 in my car but it was just too much work for a driven street car.they actually took it back no questions asked.great customer service.this was some years back.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: bonefish] #1038430
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Quote:

if you get the 16-1 be sure and get a gym membership to go with it.



I love my quick ratio box and don't notice it being difficult to steer.If you compare it to power steering it will feel hard but If compared to a stock manual box there is not much difference.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: AndyF] #1038431
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Whoever was making the gears decided not to make them anymore. Happens all the time. Low volume stuff doesn't pay the bills so the products get turned off when the tooling wears out.




The Mopar 2011 Performance catalog still lists a manual steering gear kit (20 to 1) #P4007612...

Just my $0.02..

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: Sinitro] #1038432
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Pretty sure that is old inventory that they are still selling off.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: west] #1038433
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Quote:

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if you get the 16-1 be sure and get a gym membership to go with it.



I love my quick ratio box and don't notice it being difficult to steer.If you compare it to power steering it will feel hard but If compared to a stock manual box there is not much difference.


they aregreat for steering its gettin in and out of parkin spots thatll wear ya out.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: autoxcuda] #1038434
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Quote:

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Flaming River has a Mopar manual 16:1 box for A,B,E applications PN# 1540 $500




Bummer is that it has a heavier cast iron case than the factory aluminum case.








www.speedwaymotors.com list a replacement manual 16:1 bolt in for A,B,E PN#910-32508 $450

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: bonefish] #1038435
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Quote:

Quote:

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if you get the 16-1 be sure and get a gym membership to go with it.



I love my quick ratio box and don't notice it being difficult to steer.If you compare it to power steering it will feel hard but If compared to a stock manual box there is not much difference.


they aregreat for steering its gettin in and out of parkin spots thatll wear ya out.



sure,if you try to turn the wheel when aren't moving.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: DAYCLONA] #1038436
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Quote:

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Flaming River has a Mopar manual 16:1 box for A,B,E applications PN# 1540 $500




www.speedwaymotors.com list a replacement manual 16:1 bolt in for A,B,E PN#910-32508 $450



Bummer is that it has a heavier cast iron case than the factory aluminum case.




Thats the Flaming River box, made in Argentina..
Well built..

Just my $0.02...

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: west] #1038437
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if you get the 16-1 be sure and get a gym membership to go with it.



I love my quick ratio box and don't notice it being difficult to steer.If you compare it to power steering it will feel hard but If compared to a stock manual box there is not much difference.


they aregreat for steering its gettin in and out of parkin spots thatll wear ya out.



sure,if you try to turn the wheel when aren't moving.


OK,OK so your big and strong,WE GET IT!

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: bonefish] #1038438
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I put an original 16:1 box into my '65 Coronet a few years back. It was waaay to stiff for me so I sold it to a guy with a SB powered A-body car. He also tried it for a bit and then sold it because it was way too stiff for him.

Re: Firm Feel fast ratio manual steering boxes... [Re: AndyF] #1038439
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I've had a Firm Feel 20:1 box in my '66 Charger for years. It's not bad with the 215s on the front.

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