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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: HYPER8oSoNic]
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06/30/11 08:20 PM
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dustergirl340
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Hands down, 340's are BEST (ok, dustergirl, you can stop jumpin'  )
I agree! (Okay, I'll stop jumping now  )
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: HYPER8oSoNic]
#1017242
06/30/11 09:29 PM
06/30/11 09:29 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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blah blah blah,,,, a 440 in a dart will beat the drum out of an equally preped 340. A mild 383 in a 3800lb b-body w/ 3.91 gears will run mid 13's at best. The same 440 build will have you well into the 12's. Have had both and done both. I'd NEVER do a SB or 383 in a B-body. Even if it came w/ a "400hp" SB.
400hp SB? Like a Chebbie?
A. If you can get past the TRACTION PROBLEMS.
B. Everybody knows that a "mild" 383 and a 12sec 440 are two dissimilar motors.
C. It's GOOD that you have "stepped up" to a 500 cube - 440 based combo for your 70' Charger. Definitely NOT putting it down and it does run really HARD.  If I had a CHOICE for that body style and car weight, I would setup the SAME
way and maybe add a few more pony-inducing items on it!! 
D. 440 Darts were/are kinda hard to hook, without traction aids, so I don't think a 340 would have problems with it from the tree. It may be close after the 660 but 340's ARE capable of handing 440's a beatdown. FWIW, I DID get 
by a few strong 340's and the same ones even whooped upon some 383's. Never knocked the "smaller" motor since I didn't know what they were carrying!
E.  with ya on the SB or 383 in a B-Body,
But I'd chance a 383 in a "stripper" B-chassis or
a good A-body. Hands down, 340's are BEST (ok, dustergirl, you can stop jumpin' ) in the A-Body for street/strip. 
3800lbs is kinda heavy for a 383 to push around, I would go no higher than 3500-3600 (incl. driver) absoulute! 3800lbs, is right for a "warm" 440. Just my own opinions said out loud!!
again a 440 any-body will walk a 340 any-body. I said it outloud.
$ for $ I'll give you 2 lights. both can be fast however if you are starting from square 1 and one guy/gal has a 440 mill and one has a 340 and both spend the same amount of money/buy the same parts...the 440 will ALWAYS win. (1/4 mile anyway)
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: dustergirl340]
#1017244
06/30/11 11:44 PM
06/30/11 11:44 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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I spent $1,800 on my 340 including the purchase price and ran a 12.40, so I'm happy with that, lol.
GOOD DEAL!
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1017245
07/01/11 06:56 PM
07/01/11 06:56 PM
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HYPER8oSoNic
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again a 440 any-body will walk a 340 any-body. I said it outloud. I care to diagree!! Lighter bodies + loads of low end torque (440) = bad 60ft times/traction problems, UNLESS you have a GOOD chassis setup!! Not enough top end hp/too much low midrange (440), 340 WILL out-leg it!! $ for $ I'll give you 2 lights. I wouldn't race against YOUR car with 2 lights (lengths) start in a 340, it be a SLAUGHTER match, unless I'm running a "stroker 408 or larger" SB motor. both can be fast however if you are starting from square 1 and one guy/gal has a 440 mill and one has a 340 and both spend the same amount of money/buy the same parts...the 440 will ALWAYS win. (1/4 mile anyway)
Parts wise and expense, 440 gets the nod, not as much for power output/chassis weight comparisons.
Again, depends on the chassis they are in for the race to be fair!! Go by power to weight
figures, say 10 to 1 for both. 375/440 should be in 3750lb B-body (approx), while the 275(335 actual hp approx.)/340 should be in a 3350lb A-body (approx). Makes sense to me!!
Last edited by HYPER8oSoNic; 07/12/11 11:25 PM.
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: HYPER8oSoNic]
#1017248
07/03/11 10:37 PM
07/03/11 10:37 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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Hey, uh, is this 383-440 thread,  gonna go as many pages as the girls love the mopars thread?.....before it goes away? 
Well..um..we can always RESURRECT the 413 vs 440
thread if you want...!!
what about 440 vs HEMI? $ for $ of course.
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1017250
07/05/11 05:56 PM
07/05/11 05:56 PM
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Sk. Canada
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again a 440 any-body will walk a 340 any-body. I said it outloud.
Thats about a def-con 4... 
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: RemCharger]
#1017251
07/05/11 08:52 PM
07/05/11 08:52 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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again a 440 any-body will walk a 340 any-body. I said it outloud.
Thats about a def-con 4... [/quote
lol but so very true. any body want to take me up on it? build one of those 340's for 5k (about what I have in my heap) toss it in a 3900 b-body and lets go. all throttle no bottle.
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#1017252
07/05/11 09:30 PM
07/05/11 09:30 PM
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I'm sure theres cheap fast goodies at .25c on the dollar for small blocks too. I just got back from the 50,000 shootout in medicine hat Ab... Don't recall any 440s that hung on past the 1/8 mile with me. But I only ran 21 passes. There could have been one lurking... 
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: RemCharger]
#1017253
07/05/11 10:24 PM
07/05/11 10:24 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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I'm sure theres cheap fast goodies at .25c on the dollar for small blocks too.
I just got back from the 50,000 shootout in medicine hat Ab... Don't recall any 440s that hung on past the 1/8 mile with me.
But I only ran 21 passes. There could have been one lurking...
only reason mines at 5k is because I spent $2100 on the six-pack. A big single 4 would run batter and be cheaper but they are near as coooooool. 383's don't even work until the 1/8th...lol
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: HYPER8oSoNic]
#1017256
07/07/11 04:01 AM
07/07/11 04:01 AM
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Well ive tried not to but since you BB guys cant agree one one thing while your trying to figure out how to make a tiny 3.75 stroke 440 motor work in the 11-s 12-s us 4 inch plus small block stroker guys are in the 9s-10s all day running less bobweight, less head flow and more rpm. So when you get it figured out let us small block guys know...im easily found in Denver if anyone needs schooled, by an F-body none the less. Looks like only the green six pack charger is doing well As far as the weight issues, some f-body cars weigh 3800, some 3200 Just because some like the fat chicks of the mopar world, dont pawn them off on others.
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: quick77rt ]
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07/07/11 04:17 PM
07/07/11 04:17 PM
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Well ive tried not to but since you BB guys cant agree one one thing while your trying to figure out how to make a tiny 3.75 stroke 440 motor work in the 11-s 12-s us 4 inch plus small block stroker guys are in the 9s-10s all day running less bobweight, less head flow and more rpm.
So when you get it figured out let us small block guys know...im easily found in Denver if anyone needs schooled, by an F-body none the less.
Looks like only the green six pack charger is doing well
As far as the weight issues, some f-body cars weigh 3800, some 3200 Just because some like the fat chicks of the mopar world, dont pawn them off on others.
You're going to have to knock the dust off your old 340 crank to get in on this discussion..
Stroker big blocks can run 9s, 10s too. 
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Re: 383 VS 440
[Re: quick77rt ]
#1017259
07/07/11 05:05 PM
07/07/11 05:05 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Well ive tried not to but since you BB guys cant agree one one thing while your trying to figure out how to make a tiny 3.75 stroke 440 motor work in the 11-s 12-s us 4 inch plus small block stroker guys are in the 9s-10s all day running less bobweight, less head flow and more rpm.
So when you get it figured out let us small block guys know...im easily found in Denver if anyone needs schooled, by an F-body none the less.
Looks like only the green six pack charger is doing well
As far as the weight issues, some f-body cars weigh 3800, some 3200 Just because some like the fat chicks of the mopar world, dont pawn them off on others.
fat chicks are fun.
but....drop a stroked BB in an a-body and they run 8's and 9's. You aren't talking same $ for $ son.
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