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Re: manual trans question
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06/15/11 04:05 PM
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I had another thought. Is the reverse ball detent intact? A missing ball will cause the reverse gear to float over and lock 2nd gear. 
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Re: manual trans question
[Re: EF8aar]
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06/16/11 01:55 AM
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Thanks for responding. I didn't have a chance to get under the car tonight. But one thing comes to mind when you mention the reverse ball detent. I noticed there is no 'click' or positive position for the reverse arm. While I was adjusting the rods I just positioned the lever to the forward position as far as it would go.
Should there be a 'click' or detent when the lever is correctly in reverse? Without a 'click' would I assume the ball may be missing? There is RTV on the bolt at the detent area, so someone's been in there.
There should definitely be a detent , disconnect the reverse lever from the trans and rotate the part it bolted to on the trans , if you have no detent you have a problem there . Pull just the outer bolt , pull the spring and put a magnet down the hole to retrieve the ball , if there is no ball you may have found the problem .
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Re: manual trans question
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06/17/11 12:01 AM
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I had another thought. Is the reverse ball detent intact? A missing ball will cause the reverse gear to float over and lock 2nd gear.
Well, I checked it tonight and found a spring but no ball. I used a magnet and even a mirror and didn't see a ball. So I guess it's safe to say, it's not in there. And, maybe, maybe this is the first step at getting this problem solved. I guess the next logical thing is to order up a ball, gasket, and side cover gasket. Should I replace anything else while I'm in there?
Thank you 
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Re: manual trans question
[Re: EF8aar]
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06/19/11 10:18 AM
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So I went back under the car tonight doing some clean-up and I thought I'd feel around the bottom of the trans for any metal, and what do you know...... the ball!!
So for the heck of it, I assembled the reverse detent mechanism and the reverse arm now has the detents .... now I have to wonder why the ball was at the bottom of the trans...
more than likely someone pulled or installed the detent housing incorrectly , it has to go in and come out in a certain order or the ball ends up in the bottom of the case .
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Re: manual trans question
[Re: EF8aar]
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06/19/11 11:08 PM
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So I went back under the car tonight doing some clean-up and I thought I'd feel around the bottom of the trans for any metal, and what do you know...... the ball!!
So for the heck of it, I assembled the reverse detent mechanism and the reverse arm now has the detents .... now I have to wonder why the ball was at the bottom of the trans...
I wondered about this when 1st reading this post. If the detent is removed in the car and the lever gets moved the ball can fall in. This will cause the problem you have. Do'nt ask how I know about it.
Doug
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Re: manual trans question
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06/20/11 09:41 AM
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So I went back under the car tonight doing some clean-up and I thought I'd feel around the bottom of the trans for any metal, and what do you know...... the ball!!
So for the heck of it, I assembled the reverse detent mechanism and the reverse arm now has the detents .... now I have to wonder why the ball was at the bottom of the trans...
I wondered about this when 1st reading this post. If the detent is removed in the car and the lever gets moved the ball can fall in. This will cause the problem you have. Don't ask how I know about it.
Doug
The ball is held in place by the big hollow bolt that goes in the trans case first which holds the ball and spring in place, if you remove it without first pulling the ball and spring the ball, and probably the spring, falls into the trans .
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I want to thank all of you for making my trans fix an easy one. I put a new reverse detent ball in, and filled the trans with GL-4 rated oil and the problem is gone. The trans shifts great and I have no problem getting into second!! 