Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: convertriple]
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06/01/11 12:01 AM
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In the past I ran NHRA/IHRA points for the season at local tracks knowing that I couldn't go to the bracket finals at the year's end due to work conflicts. Over time I stopped joining points and ran where I wanted when I wanted. That was more fun to me. This year I am running in the Friday points season at Beaver Springs. The cost is much less and the payout is also much less but it is truely a lot of fun and everybody is really friendly and seems to get along well. There are about 8 or 9 classes on Fridays and all the classes have four to six rounds in eliminations. The stands have more people in them on Fridays compared to the Sunday shows even though they are both bracket races. The bonus to me is there is the "PRO" tree being used with a bracket format so redlights are not a problem and I am very good on the pro tree. An additional bonus is I have the weekend to do what I want, go race at another track, go to a car show, or take my lady friend out for an evening event. You just have to find what works for you, your family, and your wallet. BTW, I am #1 in points so far this season and being #1 is always fun!
Chris
2011 & 2012 Beaver Springs Dragway Outlaw Street Champion
2012 BSD Friday Street Racer Driver of the Year
3-time Jr. Stock Eliminator
2-time Mean Street Eliminator
'69 340 Dart 1.500 60ft, 11.359et, 117.08mph
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: HPMike]
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06/01/11 12:14 AM
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After i have read all these posts seems like everyone has a point that concerns them.I had the really fast car and it turned out to be a big hassle every time in went to the track.I had to have guys just to line me up in the groove,you just can't see, the way i was strapped down. It was not fun anymore.I sold the car and now i putting a duster together to run foot brake,run pump gas, no electronics and i can open the door and look at the back tires myself and won't need any help.I think we all got to the point of being the big time racer with 15,000 dollar engines and 3,00 trans and 20,000 cars using 10.00 a gallon gas.I might have 3,000 in the whole car and won't brake nothing,run 7.60s, sweet. hope i made my point rambling on like this.
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: Whompin_Wedge]
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06/01/11 01:03 AM
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140 bucks for a seat belt every two years is nothing on what we spend on these cars... Race within your means.. simple. Casey
You mean throw away 140 every 2 years... like they are really worn out
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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06/01/11 01:18 AM
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140 bucks for a seat belt every two years is nothing on what we spend on these cars...
Race within your means.. simple.
Casey
You mean throw away 140 every 2 years... like they are really worn out
Yea but still..
could be worse... they could make u put in a whole new cage every 2 years
Casey
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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06/01/11 01:40 AM
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. Casey it's not just the $140.00 every two years. (Although the cam locks are a lot more money) it's the other BS that goes with it. The locking trans dip stick the SFI roll bar padding, the engine diaper, the increase cost of chassis certifications, then you get some putz inspector who passed your car two years ago but now same car is not legal. It's always something with NHRA. Then add that to the increased entry fees and the cuts in pay out. A lot of racers are either saying the hell with it or finding different venues.
I do think the economy has played a big part; it’s not just Drag Racing that has taken a hit. I’ve seen it at dirt tracks also. If you watched any NASCAR this year you see a lot of empty seats, and teams who have dropped out. People have prioritized and racing is not on top. There have been a few mentions of Beaver Springs. I have been there for the Friday night races, he packs the place. 5 dollar entry and win a pizza and a trophy. The Racers are happy, the fans are happy and Bob makes money.
Bill Bader at Norwalk two years ago had a race and the gate fee was FREE. There was so many people there they had to close down RT 18 and RT 20 coming into the place.
Steve has mentioned the Nostalgia Races... He's right. We were at Quaker City this past Sunday, although it ended up being canceled because of water seeping through the cracks, they had an awesome turn out for there first Nostalgia Classic. The reason is this, Adults - $10.00, Kids 11-15 $5.00, Adults 65+ $5.00 and Kids 10 and under Free. So a family of 4 can see Funny Cars, Dragsters, Gassers and Super Stockers for under $40.00. You go to the Nostalgia Nationals at Beaver Springs; on Sunday it's standing room only. And in both cases there were families there, Kids, Teenagers, and kids in there 20's. The tracks need to start thinking outside the box. They need to give the racers a good track that hooks, keep the entry reasonable and the pay out reasonable and the racers will come. And if they keep the gate fees reasonable the fans along with the racers families will come also. And alog with that the future racers of the sport will be born
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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06/01/11 09:26 AM
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Last edited by julian2007; 06/01/11 09:33 AM.
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: dOc !]
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06/01/11 09:37 AM
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Has anyone talked to NHRA about these belt rules ?
And WHY small OEM belts are fine for years ...and WHY the Air Forse on their fighter-jets have much longer "life" expectations ?
I have a problem with that as well.
My 40 year old belts are ok but as soon as I install a safer set of 3" belts they have to be chucked every three years regardless of use?
Madness.
I have a brand new trans blanket for the Reliant that has to be chucked and it is new in the box, just been sitting on the shelf for 8 years.
Just checked the rules- You have to send in a scattershield to be recertified every 5 years? [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], its forged steel! I can see getting a flywheel checked out but an aftermarket forged steel bell?
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: Whompin_Wedge]
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06/01/11 10:06 AM
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140 bucks for a seat belt every two years is nothing on what we spend on these cars...
Race within your means.. simple.
Casey
You mean throw away 140 every 2 years... like they are really worn out
Yea but still..
could be worse... they could make u put in a whole new cage every 2 years
Casey
dont be giving them ideas.
i just changed the oil in my Caliber yesterday. it cost $26, that is outrageous. in 04 when i bought my Ram, i remember oil changes costing $13 for alot more oil. Gas is almost 4 times more money than it was a few years ago. between gas, oil and trans fluid, i wonder how anyone could afford to keep up a car
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: sixpackgut]
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06/01/11 10:30 AM
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$140.00 for belts? some people spend that on a oil change every time they go racing. Not me on either.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: rowin4]
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06/01/11 12:13 PM
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$140.00 for belts? some people spend that on a oil change every time they go racing. Not me on either.
So what are you trying to say?
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: justinp61]
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06/01/11 01:19 PM
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Here are some facts on population demographics that any organization trying to sell products needs to be mindful of: 75 million baby boomers are in or close to retirement age. 60 million Gen Ys are in the workforce. 50 million Gen Xs are in the workforce.
Boomers as a group will be dropping in absolute numbers, but two economic realities will come with them-some will be on fixed incomes and some will have the highest amounts of dispoable income ever seen.
Gen Xers remain a constant for several more decades to come until they reach retirement.
Gen Y will continue to become an increasingly larger percentage of the work force and in 2018 will constitute half the available US workforce.
Any business marketing itself that wants to sustain growth needs to take in to account that the growing Gen Y population needs to feel included. Based on what I've seen at my local drag strips, the Gen Y group as a whole is typically dismissed as young, not affulent enough, and lacking interest by the businesses that need them. That isn't too say they don't have necessarily have a racing interest, but as young working stiffs, the tracks need to understand that by dropping the cost of competition, they can attract more racers, their friends, and their families in this generation and they can better assure their survival in the future.
Some of the biggest nights I've seen at my tracks have been the low cost test and tune, grudge match nights where there is a run wahtcha brung atmosphere and the lanes have a hundred+ cars and the stands are packed full of kids. By contrast, there are maybe a dozen high end bracket cars with nice hualers, enclosed trailers, big generators, etc. Sure those dozen cars all paid the same price as all the kids and will likely return on Sunday to pay $100 for the money race. But, as a track owner, would I rather have a dozen hard core racers every sunday for $100 a pop, or a few hundred kids in buzz bomb import cars at $10 each for entry, plus buying concessions.
I also agree with the marketing aspect of tracks now days too. There are many new people relocating to my area every year. Many of them are suprised when I tell them I go to the track because they didn't think one existed here. Tracks need to be mindful that if you want people to come to you, you have to regularly remind them that you exist. Some how I have a feeling that if they are going to spend $5k on something, many tracks may make this or that improvement to the facility ahead of advertising.
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: savoyracer]
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06/01/11 06:22 PM
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I could've raced twin $2500 to win races on saturday but chose to go boating instead. My wife and kids hate the track and my girls will only be young once so... over 500 boats and 8 live bands on a local sandbar! It is not that I can't afford it, but chose to spend my money elsewhere. Different strokes for different folks.
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Me too, race track or that? I'll take the boats and women anyday!!!
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
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06/01/11 06:35 PM
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julian2007, I'll take you up on that race for $$$. I like Heads-Up run what ya brung racing.
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Re: The future of Drag Racing...
[Re: Challenger 1]
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06/01/11 06:41 PM
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I have painted everything from gun stocks to refrigerators to pay for racing.
MOST people I know MAKE MONEY racing. But if that is what works-for-you ....go for it.
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