Maybe the rainbow chasers John.... but lil ole bracket guy, that enjoys a nice 9 sec pass, like myself I don't feel like I've "beaten" on my stuff. 6800 shift point, trap at 7200. I could put the 4.3 gear back in and trap at 7K. While it bothers me that with the parts I have I could REALLY have some fun.... my bank account thanks me for our "mild" decisions. btw, 4" stroke here with 6" rod.