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HMcCandless_Jr
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Just for the Record on Herb McCandless
      #7416803 - Thu Oct 11 2012 01:15 PM

Herb McCandless Never Raced a 71 Duster for Buddy Martin. You will figure out why I put this on here later.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: HMcCandless_Jr]
      #7416897 - Thu Oct 11 2012 02:37 PM



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383man
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: roadhazard]
      #7416945 - Thu Oct 11 2012 03:13 PM

I know he drove the 70 Duster that won Pro Stock at Indy in 1970. But I also heard that car burnt up in a fire. Maybe they used another 70 Duster with a 71 grille. He has always been one of my top favorite racers of all time. I really enjoyed talking to him at Carlisle one year as he stopped in the middle of the showfield and took time to talk to me. He was really nice to me and a first class act in my book. Ron

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: 383man]
      #7417018 - Thu Oct 11 2012 04:07 PM

Yeah I thought the 70 Duster was converted to a 71 and then shortly after it was destroyed in an accident after a race?

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: RV2]
      #7417058 - Thu Oct 11 2012 04:47 PM

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Yeah I thought the 70 Duster was converted to a 71 and then shortly after it was destroyed in an accident after a race?




nope

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: RV2]
      #7417062 - Thu Oct 11 2012 04:49 PM

I'd like to know what the OP is all about, please. I've met & talked with Herb on several occasions; he's a gentleman and has a quick wit. Always a good time & great stories.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: topside]
      #7417065 - Thu Oct 11 2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

I'd like to know what the OP is all about, please. I've met & talked with Herb on several occasions; he's a gentleman and has a quick wit. Always a good time & great stories.





...what's up?? I have talked/dealt with Herb for years.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: HMcCandless_Jr]
      #7417148 - Thu Oct 11 2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Herb McCandless Never Raced a 71 Duster for Buddy Martin. You will figure out why I put this on here later.






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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: BloFish]
      #7417156 - Thu Oct 11 2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Herb McCandless Never Raced a 71 Duster for Buddy Martin. You will figure out why I put this on here later.










Okay , Okay, It was a 72, who cares??


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MR_P_BODY
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: Sport440]
      #7417162 - Thu Oct 11 2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Herb McCandless Never Raced a 71 Duster for Buddy Martin. You will figure out why I put this on here later.










Okay , Okay, It was a 72, who cares??




Oh... the drama... LOL


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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: MR_P_BODY]
      #7417381 - Thu Oct 11 2012 08:42 PM

I know what this is about. The background topic of the original post is going to be good when the story REALLY breaks loose.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: sixpakdodge]
      #7417408 - Thu Oct 11 2012 09:08 PM

Did Herb have his own Demon in '71?

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: slantzilla]
      #7417422 - Thu Oct 11 2012 09:15 PM Attachment (191 downloads)

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Did Herb have his own Demon in '71?




Herb and Gale Mortimer built the Demon for 1972. In 1971, Herb ran one of the Sox & Martin '70 cars that was updated to '71 trim.


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383man
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: sixpakdodge]
      #7417443 - Thu Oct 11 2012 09:29 PM

I always thought Herb owned his 71 or 72 Demon the one that is getting shown now. But it does say on it : Dodge by Sox & Martin. Ron

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: 383man]
      #7417468 - Thu Oct 11 2012 09:53 PM Attachment (336 downloads)



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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: roadhazard]
      #7417504 - Thu Oct 11 2012 10:31 PM Attachment (392 downloads)

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TrWaters
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Loc: Vermont
Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: HEMIFRED]
      #7417833 - Fri Oct 12 2012 07:18 AM

Film at 11

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: Sport440]
      #7417837 - Fri Oct 12 2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Herb McCandless Never Raced a 71 Duster for Buddy Martin. You will figure out why I put this on here later.










Okay , Okay, It was a 72, who cares??



Why not tell the whole story and spare us the BS.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: a9sec70cuda]
      #7417882 - Fri Oct 12 2012 08:18 AM

Well???? Everyone is waiting!!

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: tboomer]
      #7417899 - Fri Oct 12 2012 08:32 AM

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Well???? Everyone is waiting!!




Maybe I won't go to work today so I can monitor this post and find out!!!! OOOOOHHHHHHH I'm so excited!!!


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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: J_BODY]
      #7417914 - Fri Oct 12 2012 08:48 AM

This sounds like a game,

Let me guess, someone is trying to recreate the car for personal gain...

Allan G.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: turbobitt]
      #7418411 - Fri Oct 12 2012 04:52 PM

Zzzzzzzz

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DCM71cuda
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: BloFish]
      #7420321 - Sun Oct 14 2012 10:32 AM

Things are not always what they seem.

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HEMIFRED
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: DCM71cuda]
      #7420345 - Sun Oct 14 2012 10:50 AM

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Things are not always what they seem.




Totally creative writing and fact manipuation


a;ll the claims are total fantasy and creative writing. Buddy , Herb and Dave Christy all deny any 71 Duster being built as well as Chick DeNinno telling me he is misquoted about Herb driolling holes. Most all the pictures he used are of my car. nothing he shows indicates for examples comes close to a S&M built car. A&A fiberglass scoops were on everyone's caras was he narropw bumper No Moroso tachs were ever used on factory cars .S&M and everyone else used S&W tach and gagues only.the sidebar of the roll cage is wrong and the sloppy welding of the tail light panel did is not the quailty of any pro builder.

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BloFish
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: HMcCandless_Jr]
      #7420374 - Sun Oct 14 2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Herb McCandless Never Raced a 71 Duster for Buddy Martin. You will figure out why I put this on here later.



What say you...

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: BloFish]
      #7420416 - Sun Oct 14 2012 11:25 AM

Interesting fabrication. It's cool how they chose their "experts" when there are true experts available.

Sheldon


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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: RUNCHARGER]
      #7420461 - Sun Oct 14 2012 11:54 AM

Thanks for getting ahead on this, Herb.

Just as a side, that old 477 we got off you a few years back is still in Kevin's 71 Satellite, going 12.0's all the time. The motor is reliable, low, low maintenence, and constistent. It's a winner!! You guys did a good job....just thought I'd let you know.

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topside
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: BloFish]
      #7420661 - Sun Oct 14 2012 02:58 PM

Well, the "1971 Duster" photo referenced in that online article is wearing '72 tail lamps & rear body panel...this is all as clear as mud...

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MR_P_BODY
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: topside]
      #7420690 - Sun Oct 14 2012 03:19 PM

I guess the OP doesnt want to say what all this BS
is all about


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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: MR_P_BODY]
      #7420729 - Sun Oct 14 2012 04:04 PM

Iam wondering who gives a crap? I sure don't.

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crabman173
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: slippery440]
      #7420741 - Sun Oct 14 2012 04:12 PM

I will take it!!!!
Give me a price!!!


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crabman173
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: crabman173]
      #7420746 - Sun Oct 14 2012 04:13 PM

Oh boy I am gonna be rich! Just as soon as I buy this car!!

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: crabman173]
      #7420766 - Sun Oct 14 2012 04:26 PM

Who is Dino Powell?

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: slippery440]
      #7420785 - Sun Oct 14 2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Iam wondering who gives a crap? I sure don't.




understandable.
since you do not have phoney statements credited to your name or pictures misrepresenting your car.
If they were would be singing a different tune?
Then are people with no connection who give a crap because just don't like scams period.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: HEMIFRED]
      #7421009 - Sun Oct 14 2012 07:03 PM

...is it perhaps possible....that this cars existence could/would devalue the other S&M cars out there??
Perhaps that's why all the "stuff" about it not being a "real" S&M car????
Inquiring minds want to know the truth....
Throw it out there for ALL to see and let the MASSES figure out who's on first, What's on second.....

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: MR_P_BODY]
      #7421019 - Sun Oct 14 2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

I guess the OP doesnt want to say what all this BS
is all about





What this is "all about" is a potential scam. When items are mis-represented to give an inflated value, it hurts the entire hobby. I see no value in getting random people to "authenticate" a car, when it would be easy enough to get the people directly involved to do so. I don't think anyone could accuse Herb of not wanting to talk or help out in such a situation. He is probably one the most accessible individuals in the Mopar world, and would have been involved in the construction of the car. Yet he was not consulted on this. That in itself should raise a red-flag.


David McCandless

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slippery440
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: HEMIFRED]
      #7421179 - Sun Oct 14 2012 08:56 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Iam wondering who gives a crap? I sure don't.




understandable.
since you do not have phoney statements credited to your name or pictures misrepresenting your car.
If they were would be singing a different tune?
Then are people with no connection who give a crap because just don't like scams period.




AND This is race related how? Just someone trying to steal from a dead racer LIKE EVERYONE THAT OWNS CARS DRIVEN BY FAMOUS RACERS.

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MR_P_BODY
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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: DCM71cuda]
      #7421180 - Sun Oct 14 2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I guess the OP doesnt want to say what all this BS
is all about





What this is "all about" is a potential scam. When items are mis-represented to give an inflated value, it hurts the entire hobby. I see no value in getting random people to "authenticate" a car, when it would be easy enough to get the people directly involved to do so. I don't think anyone could accuse Herb of not wanting to talk or help out in such a situation. He is probably one the most accessible individuals in the Mopar world, and would have been involved in the construction of the car. Yet he was not consulted on this. That in itself should raise a red-flag.


David McCandless




So who is selling a car... never seen anything mentioned
in this post


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Steve1118
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Loc: Walton's Mountain, Pa
Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: DCM71cuda]
      #7421237 - Sun Oct 14 2012 09:32 PM

David, thanks to you and your brother for getting ahead on this. You are indeed right about your dad being accessible, he's never met anyone he didn't know. Great guy.

Whether it is a for profit scam or not, makes no difference to me. It's not the truth, and someone is attributing things that aren't factual for whatever reason. Ego, money, doesn't matter. Truth is truth.

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Re: Just for the Record on Herb McCandless [Re: Steve1118]
      #7421312 - Sun Oct 14 2012 10:40 PM

All fakes become real over time, that is the real problem. In the vintage race car field (specifically old NASCAR chassis') so many fakes are out there that it has hurt the overall value of the real cars. A lot of people have gotten burned and they don't forget that.

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