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Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77
      #7386369 - Wed Sep 19 2012 06:18 PM Attachment (84 downloads)

Looking for any and all help I can get on info a bb1 1968 coronet rt I just bought. I originally posted it in the WIW with pics of the fender tag and now the bs and the whole story on the car. I had several people look at the fendertag pic in the WIW section and say it is "something" unique with the 77 at the start of SO# but no one has been able to figure it out or at least tell me. I am trying here to see if we have any coronet guru's on the site that might be able to help me out. I will post the WIW post below on my last post there. Thanks again for any help!!


Hello Guys,
Well after I posted that pic of the fendertag I have had alot of people pm that there is "something" unique about this car with that 77 in the SO#. Well I picked the car up today and I am going to keep it and restore it now for myself as I just love the color combo when I got it out in the light and set the hood and fenders back on the car. It is a darn sharp looking car. I will try to get pics this weekend and put them up if anyone would like to see it.

But with that said I wanted to try and gather as much info on the car as I can and do it right. I will post the pics below of the info I have and if ANYONE out this is a coronet guru please help me out here. You can pm me direct for larger file pics of the bs and ft. Here is a shot of the tag and bs.

I have had a few people say the 77 is very very interesting and it might be a dealer executive car or promo car but the bs I have does not have any special marking on it stating that. But any info would be greatly appreciated and I would be indebited to you. thanks again Mike

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7386582 - Wed Sep 19 2012 08:14 PM

I can't tell from the picture...

look on the fifth line of codes from the top for 6** series codes at the beginning (SPL CODES) and end of the line (EXPORT ITEMS). Are there any numbers in any of the 6** boxes?

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: 69CoronetRT]
      #7386649 - Wed Sep 19 2012 08:49 PM

No all those boxes are empty

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7386886 - Wed Sep 19 2012 11:24 PM

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No all those boxes are empty




The photo is too reduced in size.

Need to save it bigger like 1024 x 786 pixel size or about 200-350 Kb sized file.

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: autoxcuda]
      #7387240 - Thu Sep 20 2012 10:00 AM Attachment (61 downloads)

I will post the bigger pics below. I can not get anyone that really has an idea for sure what the 7 series SO# really stands for as there are only two other cars in the registry that have that starting so # one a gtx and one a satalite vert. So if anyone knows what it is or has ideas let me know. this car was not marked as a dealer promo or executive car on the bs. Thanks again

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7387241 - Thu Sep 20 2012 10:00 AM Attachment (52 downloads)

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7387243 - Thu Sep 20 2012 10:01 AM Attachment (48 downloads)

certi card

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7387765 - Thu Sep 20 2012 04:53 PM Attachment (35 downloads)

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... as there are only two other cars in the registry that have that starting so # one a gtx and one a satalite vert.




Cool name for the owner....

I see it was in Omaha...my neck of the woods. Any idea which dealer sold the car?

What registry are you referring to? Do you have any more details on those two cars?



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1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs.
Over 2,000 thanks to you!

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vette1986
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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: 69CoronetRT]
      #7387785 - Thu Sep 20 2012 05:06 PM

Hello,
is that your car's tag? it is a 7 so# too. I have the name of the individual that runs a registry on 68 b body st louis only cars. I can give you his email if you would like to contact him. It was Sacoman dodge here in OMaha

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7390212 - Sat Sep 22 2012 01:13 PM Attachment (32 downloads)

Wheel Cover #2881 764

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vette1986
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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7391840 - Sun Sep 23 2012 07:36 PM

thanks again to everyone that has helped me decode this car as there is definetly something different about it with that SO# starting with 7 and then the high amount of options it had and how it was not delivered until after 120 days after the build. But nobody can tell for sure in 68 what all those oddities acutally mean. Well now to add a little more to it.

I finally got a chance today to unload the car and inspect it better when I rolled it into our storage shed. I forgot my camera or I would have shot pics for you guys to see and it is an hour and a half away so it might be a while before I get back up with the camera. But long story short this car's unibody was completly green! You would never have know it looking at the car but when you take off the doors and fenders there were the tell tail areas with green under where they had repainted the car. If you looked up the rear of the trunk under the package tray and crossbars it was still green there too! The bottom part of the trunk was correct with the wheelwells in black and pan in black but anything up high they just skipped. The fenders, doors, hood and trunk deck did not show any green at all. The car was obviously reshot at the factory in black and they did it once the doors, fenders and hood were on the car. It is an original paint car and you can clearly see that with it torn apart so this is an example of a car being reshot another color before leaving the factory.

I was wondering if the odd SO# might have something to do with this as I wonder if chrysler wanted a black exec or promo car and just pulled a green unibody and reshot it black?? The buildsheet and tag obviously say bb1 black. Does anyone else have ANY input on this as something is odd on this car and would love to try and figure it out as I have had alot of people say that 7 means something but in 68 with the odd buildsheets and codes that year no body can pin it down. Also wanted to say a special thanks to Dan who decoded this for me and did the original cost of the car and this thing was actually just under $4300 window sticker new! That was alot more than a hemi coronet rt so it was a highly optioned car.

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7391879 - Sun Sep 23 2012 07:53 PM

a rebody seems more plausable to me
then the factory changing colors midstream.......
how do you know it is a orig paint car?
did you put a paint gauge on it?

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vette1986
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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: flypaper]
      #7391900 - Sun Sep 23 2012 08:04 PM

It is not a rebody as the factory welds are in place up front and the #'s match on body. This car is about as unmolested as I have seen and you can tell by looking at the body panels taken apart it is an original paint car. There are no other layers of paint on the car except black and then on the unibody black covering the green and under the door hinges all their is is green and you can see where the black was cut in around the hinges but not under the hinges.

I have heard several where several workers said cars were reshot alot at the St Louis plant and one of the most common colors was green so it makes sense a unibody was pulled after being shot green and then changed to a not so common color like black. I was wondering if this might have triggered the 7 in the SO# or if that order was in place and they just grabbed what ever shell was on the assembly line and pulled it off to reshot in the odd color combo this car was ordered as?

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7391918 - Sun Sep 23 2012 08:14 PM

the only real way to determine orig paint is by a thickness gauge,not by looks..
a few so called survivors have been outed in that manner

before you convince me of that far out factory explanation,
strip some paint away in places
and see how tough the paint strips away and whats underneath it....
i can change a front support out myself
and i bet you would never know it was done unless you were told or you stripped all the paint away...

if it pans out,
that car will be a weird story if it is a factory thing
and it isn't a show/promo car
it doesn't make much sense because if the color was wrong just swap it out with another car on the line?
then cover it all up

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: flypaper]
      #7391939 - Sun Sep 23 2012 08:32 PM

Not trying to be rude but can you tell me what the 7 in the so# means then? It should be a 1,2, or 3. Not a 7.

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: flypaper]
      #7391974 - Sun Sep 23 2012 08:57 PM

The only paint between the doors, hinges & jambs would be the various stages of "dip seal" which is often - you guessed it - GREEN. There was no stock pile of painted bodies looking for an identity, as that body was assembled it was done to instructions to build Shipping Order #772811. '68 Coronets were painted with the complete body assembled.

This Coronet R/T's complete identity was attached to #772811 before it was VIN sequence #169291.

WAG
I could see a plant manager, exec., or other making "handshake" arrangements for special handling (non-standard rust treatments etc.?) while their next car was going down the line, but doesn't make too much sense for a car they would be in possesion of for 120 days (unless you find Mr. McCartney worked for Chrysler?). Maybe they had special procedures for "Company Cars"?

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: 6bblgt]
      #7391985 - Sun Sep 23 2012 09:08 PM

Dealership rental car?

Driver's Education car?

It may have been used by the dealership for a while before it was sold.

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: 6bblgt]
      #7392109 - Sun Sep 23 2012 10:27 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

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The only paint between the doors, hinges & jambs would be the various stages of "dip seal" which is often - you guessed it - GREEN. ....




Not the best example of that green. But something. I've seen it when taking fenders off car and the sealer pulls off and exposes the green.

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: 6bblgt]
      #7392119 - Sun Sep 23 2012 10:40 PM

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The only paint between the doors, hinges & jambs would be the various stages of "dip seal" which is often - you guessed it - GREEN.





"If you looked up the rear of the trunk under the package tray and crossbars it was still green there too!"


Dan,
all i have ever seen under the package tray area
on the many 68-71 bbodies i've ever been intimate with is body color only?

a real easy test is throw some stripper on that black
and see if the paint laughs at the stripper or not
that would tell me something right there...

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: autoxcuda]
      #7392272 - Mon Sep 24 2012 06:59 AM

Yes this is what it looks like, it is a little more pronounced on this car with black against green but that is the same look. When I looked at one door hinge area the green was the only layer as it had cracked when it dried under the hinge and showed bar metal under the green. It makes alot of sense as the black is everywhere on this car, floors, trunk, cowl, jams. The package tray just looks like they did not get good coverage of black up under there.



Quote:

Quote:

The only paint between the doors, hinges & jambs would be the various stages of "dip seal" which is often - you guessed it - GREEN. ....




Not the best example of that green. But something. I've seen it when taking fenders off car and the sealer pulls off and exposes the green.




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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: vette1986]
      #7393135 - Mon Sep 24 2012 06:58 PM

Couple of things...I've seen at least 6 68 B Bodys with SO's starting with a 7....seems to be a west coast dealership thing.I bet they assigned a block of SO #'s begining with the #7 to some Denver area dealers.It's pretty common to find a relationship between SO's and dealerships.
That incomplete fender tag posted above is one of them..WS23L8E117478....SO # 771508.
I've parted 2500 plus Mopars and have seen 2 cars that had a factory color change part way through.Parted one A Body that had a primered engine compartment and just colour blown over the fender edges.Mistakes happen.

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Re: Help on a black 1968 Coronet RT gold interior SO#77 [Re: Furyman]
      #7393211 - Mon Sep 24 2012 07:40 PM

S.O.#7xxxxx I have info on:
#726423 02/68 Charger 318 (Hamtramck)

#766440 05/68 Charger R/T 440 car (Hamtramck)
#767250 06/68 Road Runner HEMI (Lynch Rd.)

#771508 10/67 Coronet R/T 440 (LA)
#771598 09/67 Road Runner 383 (LA)
#772449 11/67 Sport Satellite 383 convertible (St. Louis)
#772811 11/67 Coronet R/T 440 BB1 & S6N (St. Louis)
#773832 10/67 Coronet R/T 440 JJ1 & S6N (Lynch Rd.)

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