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440challenger
master


Reged: Feb 21 2003
Loc: NJ
hemi orange engine paint
      #4976911 - Tue Jan 27 2009 06:46 AM

I said no to spray bomb and bought some por 15 hemi orange engine paint. has anyone used this before and how were your results/ did you thin it and shoot it and if so with what? Did you brush it on ? Any pics would be great too!! Thanks!

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cdp
super street


Reged: Jan 31 2003
Loc: MO
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: 440challenger]
      #4976958 - Tue Jan 27 2009 07:35 AM

i used it on my 340 and got good results with spraying it. I'd personally go with Manderine Orange custom mix formula. I think thats what i'm going to use on my 69 440.

I did see the POR flake and peal in a few spots after about 2 years and a little antifreeze discolored it.


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Troy
"Nice Guy"


Reged: Dec 02 2003
Loc: West Coast, CA
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: cdp]
      #4977217 - Tue Jan 27 2009 09:47 AM

I have done alot of experimenting with paints and to be honest with you, my best results have been with a spray can.

If your looking for a very shinny, glossy looking engine then go for the gun but if your looking for a realistic looking engine, I find that the old rattle can works for me.

Just my

PS.....I believe the closes looking paint on the market is the Duplicolor Chrysler Orange.....not the hemi orange but the Chrysler Orange.

OK, let the begin

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RobX4406
I Live Here


Reged: Apr 19 2005
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Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: Troy]
      #4977448 - Tue Jan 27 2009 11:33 AM

u-tech 3.8 HSP

U-TECH 3.8 Polyurethane System - High Solids System
U-TECH 3.8 System High Solids low VOC 2K Polyurethane single stage topcoat designed
to produces a very flexible impact resistant film. U-TECH 3.8 Polyurethane, incredible hiding
power that meets the productivity needs of the Fleet market as well as the light commercial
to heavy commercial markets.

More importantly the intermix tinting system allows for color formulas available for both fleet
and automotive saving time and reducing cost.



Product Features:

- Hiding Power
- Very Flexible
- High Gloss
- Easy-To-Spray
- Fast Cure
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DUPONT CODE : 5067U

Find a sikkens dealer and they can get it.


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MLR426
Hair today, gone tomorrow


Reged: Aug 17 2005
Loc: ILL
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: Troy]
      #4977684 - Tue Jan 27 2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

I have done alot of experimenting with paints and to be honest with you, my best results have been with a spray can.

If your looking for a very shinny, glossy looking engine then go for the gun but if your looking for a realistic looking engine, I find that the old rattle can works for me.

Just my

PS.....I believe the closes looking paint on the market is the Duplicolor Chrysler Orange.....not the hemi orange but the Chrysler Orange.

OK, let the begin




Troy,

I agree as well, we have all seen the engines
that look like the paint is 1/8 inch thick and
and as shinny as a new John Deere tractor.
The low luster spary bomb looks more correct.

logan426


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AdamR
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Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Bethel Ct
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: MLR426]
      #4979595 - Wed Jan 28 2009 06:15 AM

The POR15 is very shiny abd the color is on the pale side.



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BRawls
super gas


Reged: Jan 21 2003
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: AdamR]
      #4981547 - Wed Jan 28 2009 06:47 PM Attachment (104 downloads)

I just did a 440 brushing and it came out OK. the POR does not cover well and I had to go over it 3 times to make it look good. I'll spray next time.

Edited by BRawls (Wed Jan 28 2009 06:49 PM)


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ScottSmith_Harms
I Love Traction Bars


Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: BRawls]
      #4981579 - Wed Jan 28 2009 06:55 PM

I'm with Troy, POR15 (as well as most other brush on mixes) result in a finish that is too thick, the wrong color, and way too glossy in appearance. The factory shot single stage enamel on the bare metal engines, no primer, nothing, just a fast but fairly heavy coat of color. It was pretty slow drying so it thinned and flattened as it dried.

Modern rattle cans offer a similar look if applied correctly. Although I haven't seen anything from a rattle can that's 100% exact to OEM, but the stuff you can buy from Mopar Perfomance these days (the new mix) is pretty dan accurate! FWIW I don't think the Duplicolor mix is nearly as close.


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MOPARRESTORER
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Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: RobX4406]
      #4981819 - Wed Jan 28 2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

u-tech 3.8 HSP



I agree this has been a very good product for us. We have been using it for years with no problems.

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AdamR
moparts member


Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Bethel Ct
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: MOPARRESTORER]
      #4982565 - Thu Jan 29 2009 05:43 AM

U-Tech, is Sikkens owned.

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holtzdog55
Why ask why?


Reged: Mar 07 2007
Loc: Fairfield, Ohio
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
      #4988599 - Sat Jan 31 2009 10:51 AM Attachment (108 downloads)

Pretty sure my brother used this when he painted my engine....looks pretty good to me anyway....

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail...mp;autoview=sku

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holtzdog55
Why ask why?


Reged: Mar 07 2007
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Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: holtzdog55]
      #4988600 - Sat Jan 31 2009 10:52 AM Attachment (127 downloads)

pic of paint....

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cdp
super street


Reged: Jan 31 2003
Loc: MO
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: holtzdog55]
      #4989592 - Sat Jan 31 2009 05:31 PM Attachment (95 downloads)

Couldn't you have the U-Tech deglossed about 10-15% and get a more correct appearance?

I've heard the U-Tech has exceptional color hold out and is very resistent to gas spills/antifreeze, etc. Everything a good poly-paint should do.


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sawdust
super stock


Reged: Mar 09 2005
Loc: Green Lane, PA
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: cdp]
      #4989759 - Sat Jan 31 2009 06:13 PM

What is the Ditzler # for the tangerine orange that I saw her previously? Should be a DAR enamel paint with certain % flattening agent.

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1970 Hemi cuda, auto, FE5/FE5, A22 car, etc, etc, etc.
1966 Hemi Satellite, original paint 4spd Black survivor.
1967 Belvedere Post NSS 4spd fun car.
2010 R/T Classic 6spd plum crazy wife's ride
Lots of other junk too but cannot remember where I put it.


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ScottSmith_Harms
I Love Traction Bars


Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: sawdust]
      #4990502 - Sat Jan 31 2009 09:42 PM

Seems to a bit of confusion on this thread. DURABLE paint is not what I'm commenting on, CORRECT shade of paint is what I'm commenting on. Two different subjects. As far as correctness, as I said above, it's pretty hard to beat the current Mopar rattle can stuff, it's pretty durable as well if you prep the metal first and apply it properly.

Quote:

What is the Ditzler # for the tangerine orange that I saw her previously?




That's Dave Walden's (ECS) custom blend that he came up with when he matched some of the original engine paint on his 1970 440


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RobX4406
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Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
      #4990560 - Sat Jan 31 2009 10:01 PM

My LD340 intake looks like junk after being painted with mopar paint from a rattle can. It was spotlessly clean, painted and got some fuel on it and most of the paint lifted. Quality stuff.

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GOLDENCOMMANDO
%$#@!


Reged: Sep 11 2006
Loc: South Dakota
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: RobX4406]
      #4990603 - Sat Jan 31 2009 10:27 PM

Heres the previous post.I'm still looking for the DAR code for the max wedge.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=


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ScottSmith_Harms
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Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: GOLDENCOMMANDO]
      #4991757 - Sun Feb 01 2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

My LD340 intake looks like junk after being painted with mopar paint from a rattle can. It was spotlessly clean, painted and got some fuel on it and most of the paint lifted. Quality stuff.





No reason for the ........As I already said, I was not speaking on quality of adhesion, chemical resistance, or any other durability issues. The color is right, that's it.

*BTW, FWIW I've used it allot and had no issues with it lifting as you described.


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RobX4406
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Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
      #4992218 - Sun Feb 01 2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Quote:

My LD340 intake looks like junk after being painted with mopar paint from a rattle can. It was spotlessly clean, painted and got some fuel on it and most of the paint lifted. Quality stuff.





No reason for the ........As I already said, I was not speaking on quality of adhesion, chemical resistance, or any other durability issues. The color is right, that's it.

*BTW, FWIW I've used it allot and had no issues with it lifting as you described.




Ever seen two factory painted engines in SH orange be different shades? What's correct?

Just like B5 cars of the same year. Two can be painted B5 from the factory and the shades aren't exactly the same... so which is correct.

Not everyone is concerned with OE correct shades, of course you have to know which is actually correct because there was more than one shade variation. Spray gun stuff is much better, more durable and you could even flat it to get rid of the bothersome gloss.

The mp rattle can stuff, IMO, is garbage at best.


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ScottSmith_Harms
I Love Traction Bars


Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Spokane Washington
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: RobX4406]
      #4993442 - Sun Feb 01 2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Ever seen two factory painted engines in SH orange be different shades? What's correct?




Yes it varied, but not a ton, we are talking slight variations. There are plenty of durable paints out there, no doubt much better than rattle can or original paint on engines in terms of quality. However, MOST of todays aftermarket blends are not even close to matching any range of factory color shades, and custom flattening agents aside, are usually a mile off on the amount of gloss as well (a couple reasons that likely lead Dave Walden to match his own blend to original engine paint). So what it boils down to is that it really depends on what your priorities are.



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340SIX
Buzz Killington


Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: Mardi Gras-Land
Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
      #4993711 - Sun Feb 01 2009 09:47 PM

Well if what Scott says is true{and i trust his opinion on this}And the pressent MP rattle cans are the right color.And I was looking for that plus lasting/durable.
Cans are cheap I would get one Spray some on something Then have the local PPG or Dupont Scan it and make some in single stage. That way I would have best of both worlds.
I am planing to do this with the last of a can of the old MP red I have since they changed venders and I want the same shade


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65BelvJim
Under Restoration


Reged: Dec 28 2003
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Re: hemi orange engine paint [Re: 340SIX]
      #4993807 - Sun Feb 01 2009 10:38 PM

doesnt matter much anyways, run a few heat cycles, spill some fluids, roll through a puddle, etc. and the color changes. Give me durability over exact match, I dont like doing the same job twice
I guess perfect color match is more for winching in and out of the enclosed

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