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dare_dude
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Pro Comp. Heads
      #4842450 - Thu Nov 27 2008 12:21 PM

Got any info on them?

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sickhemi
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Reged: Nov 23 2005
Loc: mass,usa
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude]
      #4842465 - Thu Nov 27 2008 12:32 PM

car will want to go sideways(chinese) when you bolt them on!!

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Hemi- Punk
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: sickhemi]
      #4842529 - Thu Nov 27 2008 01:08 PM

Made in China.

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formula S
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Loc: San Diego
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude]
      #4842584 - Thu Nov 27 2008 01:53 PM

I saw A set in vegas at the MATS that Mancini had on display,standard port victor 440 knock off

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moparniac
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Reged: Feb 05 2007
Loc: U.S.
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: sickhemi]
      #4842596 - Thu Nov 27 2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

car will want to go sideways(chinese) when you bolt them on!!




LMAO

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'11 Dodge Ram - HEMI


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Kam*Kuda
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Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Canada
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac]
      #4842618 - Thu Nov 27 2008 02:18 PM

This is what I googled. I have heard quality issues but I do not have any 1st hand experience.
http://www.procompelectronics.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=37081

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sickhemi
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Reged: Nov 23 2005
Loc: mass,usa
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Kam*Kuda]
      #4842637 - Thu Nov 27 2008 02:44 PM

$725.00 for a cnc ported head

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Cab_Burge
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Reged: Aug 23 2003
Loc: Bend,OR USA
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: sickhemi]
      #4842660 - Thu Nov 27 2008 03:19 PM

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$725.00 for a cnc ported head


I wonder if there CNC machines cost $1000.00 or $10,000.00 US unlike a good 4 or 5 axis CNC machine made in USA that costs $100,000.00+ that will run 24 hrs.x 7 days a week for many years without loosing tolerances I ahev found that you usually get what you pay for in racing or high perforamnce parts, especially aluminum castings

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tjmarcus1
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Loc: sc
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Cab_Burge]
      #4842682 - Thu Nov 27 2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Quote:

$725.00 for a cnc ported head


I wonder if there CNC machines cost $1000.00 or $10,000.00 US unlike a good 4 or 5 axis CNC machine made in USA that costs $100,000.00+ that will run 24 hrs.x 7 days a week for many years without loosing tolerances I ahev found that you usually get what you pay for in racing or high perforamnce parts, especially aluminum castings


i was told some guy in california is doing the cnc program.

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sickhemi
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Loc: mass,usa
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: tjmarcus1]
      #4842697 - Thu Nov 27 2008 03:53 PM

cnc must stand for chin and chan the two chinese guys that port them

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moparniac
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: sickhemi]
      #4842771 - Thu Nov 27 2008 05:02 PM

cnc must stand for chin and chan the two chinese guys that port them
LMAO

I saw on ebay a set and they look like edelbrocks like all the copy cats today and had 2.25*1.88 valves in it

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Edited by wedgeOmatic (Thu Nov 27 2008 05:03 PM)


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Moparteacher
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude]
      #4842779 - Thu Nov 27 2008 05:06 PM

It's my understanding they are made in Australia, or at the least the company is based in Australia.

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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Moparteacher]
      #4842804 - Thu Nov 27 2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

It's my understanding they are made in Australia, or at the least the company is based in Australia.




i'm curious why that's your understanding, especially since everything else they sell seems to come from the far east.
i can't say i've ever seen a good customer review on their mopar heads.


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B1 Polara
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude]
      #4842853 - Thu Nov 27 2008 05:47 PM

I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.20 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.

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MOPAR or NO CAR!!!
Speed Kills! Live long and drive a Chevy

Edited by Mopar Fever (Thu Nov 27 2008 06:39 PM)


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moparniac
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Reged: Feb 05 2007
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: B1 Polara]
      #4842869 - Thu Nov 27 2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.30 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




why such a big valve.... wont shrouding be an issue...

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tjmarcus1
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Loc: sc
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: B1 Polara]
      #4842875 - Thu Nov 27 2008 05:57 PM

i understand the "loss of jobs" argument, but for a racer that's struggling to make his car faster, he's more concerned about his budget and his car.i will say this, the racers of other brands are using procomps and anything else they can get their hands on. that being said, i am looking at buying two sets. now who has the best price?

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B1 Polara
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Reged: May 22 2008
Loc: North Texas
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac]
      #4842932 - Thu Nov 27 2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.30 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




why such a big valve.... wont shrouding be an issue...




Sorry typo 2.20 int valve

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Streetwize
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Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: Weddington, N.C.
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: B1 Polara]
      #4842978 - Thu Nov 27 2008 06:53 PM

It's not the "loss of Jobs" that upsets me as much as the Pirated Technology....Edelbrock spent a ton of R&D $$$$ for our sake to develop these heads at a still affordable price....Like much of what comes from overseas their R&D budget is to buy a set of Developed heads and digitally clone them.

Ask yourself....what incentive do companies like Edelbrock have to keep developing new products fopr us if within a year they are being mercilessly undercut in the marketplace by companies that are really nothing more than Industrial Pirates????

Rant over

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moparmanjames
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Reged: Jan 05 2005
Loc: Las Vegas NV
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: B1 Polara]
      #4843016 - Thu Nov 27 2008 07:05 PM

Quote:

I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.20 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




How much $$ if I send you a set to port?


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hot67cuda
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Reged: Dec 25 2005
Loc: usa
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude]
      #4843073 - Thu Nov 27 2008 07:42 PM

I tried a set B S my ed heads were faster.I know 2 different bbcheavy guys that went slower with there pro comp heads.Send the junk back.

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tjmarcus1
top fuel


Reged: Nov 17 2004
Loc: sc
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Streetwize]
      #4843083 - Thu Nov 27 2008 07:46 PM

Quote:

It's not the "loss of Jobs" that upsets me as much as the Pirated Technology....Edelbrock spent a ton of R&D $$$$ for our sake to develop these heads at a still affordable price....Like much of what comes from overseas their R&D budget is to buy a set of Developed heads and digitally clone them.

Ask yourself....what incentive do companies like Edelbrock have to keep developing new products fopr us if within a year they are being mercilessly undercut in the marketplace by companies that are really nothing more than Industrial Pirates????

Rant over


sometimes ranting is o/k. i see your point.

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STEFF
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Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: Smyrna, South Carolina
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: tjmarcus1]
      #4843092 - Thu Nov 27 2008 07:50 PM

The new definition of R & D; "Rob & Duplicate"

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scottb
super stock


Reged: Feb 26 2005
Loc: S W Mich
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF]
      #4843138 - Thu Nov 27 2008 08:09 PM

Just another reason why our country is going down a bad road buy the cheapest $hit we can and call it racing on a budget let the american worker who put all the r&d in the edlebrock head send it oversea and it comes back a race head on a budget just remember the job you cost a american work might be yours so keep buying oversea $hit

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moparniac
Pump Gas SleDgIE


Reged: Feb 05 2007
Loc: U.S.
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF]
      #4843145 - Thu Nov 27 2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

The new definition of R & D; "Rob & Duplicate"




LOL

but how do people get away with this stuff....

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B1 Polara
mopar


Reged: May 22 2008
Loc: North Texas
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF]
      #4843169 - Thu Nov 27 2008 08:24 PM

Not that it matters but I have been to Edle foundry. I would be very suprised if all the workers were legal.

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68DARTTURBO
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Reged: Aug 20 2007
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: STEFF]
      #4843177 - Thu Nov 27 2008 08:30 PM

The heads are as good as you can get on a budget.Good for up to 6-700 horse and i will stand behind them all the way.I sell them and work with the guys form procomp very close.We are working on a spred port small block head that will change what we all think of big block vs small block in a mopar.If you could build a small block that can make 6-700 hp would you over using a big block.I think its why nobody builds that many small block cars because of the heads.We are fixing that as we speak,Just look for one bad azz sb head that will change the small block as we know it.And make that power adder motor pull even if not ahead of the FORDS AND CHEVYS in the usa.I will have something by the nats if not before

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moparniac
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Reged: Feb 05 2007
Loc: U.S.
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 68DARTTURBO]
      #4843184 - Thu Nov 27 2008 08:33 PM

[quoteWe are working on a spred port small block head that will change what we all think of big block vs small block in a mopar.If you could build a small block that can make 6-700 hp would you over using a big block.I think its why nobody builds that many small block cars because of the heads.We are fixing that as we speak,Just look for one bad azz sb head that will change the small block as we know it.




I think shady dell speed shop would have an answer for that comment....

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'11 Dodge Ram - HEMI

Edited by wedgeOmatic (Thu Nov 27 2008 08:35 PM)


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68DARTTURBO
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Reged: Aug 20 2007
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac]
      #4843205 - Thu Nov 27 2008 08:49 PM

Dont know him sorry

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moparniac
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 68DARTTURBO]
      #4843487 - Fri Nov 28 2008 06:06 AM

Quote:

I think its why nobody builds that many small block cars because of the heads.We are fixing that as we speak,Just look for one bad azz sb head that will change the small block as we know it.




well he has a website. lots of pics also to copy from to give to Chin and Chan

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1968RR
It's gonna get much worse!!


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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac]
      #4843581 - Fri Nov 28 2008 07:58 AM

I don't know much about the heads, but I do know this: I have a Pro Comp distributor (made in Australia, not China) and...well, you get what you pay for. I also know that the company was sued by MSD for ripping of their design.
I've heard a few bad things about the heads (which I believe are made in China), but I don't have any first-hand experience. If you decide to buy a set, you'll pro'ly have to spend some money getting them right. But if you do the math, they may still be a deal.
If you're going to go Chinese, you may consider the 440 Source heads (NOT trying to ). The Edelbrock heads and the cast iron Indy SRs aren't much more money, and you may want to go that direction.
Good luck on the build.

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NTOLERANCE
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: 1968RR]
      #4843728 - Fri Nov 28 2008 09:40 AM

I'm just gonna sit back and

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I'm just fine with my ugly unwanted early B body....thanks anyway....


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moparniac
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: NTOLERANCE]
      #4843755 - Fri Nov 28 2008 09:59 AM



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Harley
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac]
      #4844209 - Fri Nov 28 2008 01:56 PM

Quote:





LOL


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BDS871Cuda
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: B1 Polara]
      #4844258 - Fri Nov 28 2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.20 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




Does Pro-Comp sponsor anything or any racers?
If I was selling a product, I would put it on a few cars
and made sure I could back up what I say , like,
(a better casting than a lot of US stuff.)
Doesn't sound like to many people heard of them,
or would use them.

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B1 Polara
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Reged: May 22 2008
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: BDS871Cuda]
      #4845367 - Sat Nov 29 2008 04:53 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I sell Pro Comps that are cnc ported that have a 2.20 int and 1.88 exhaust that will flow 350cfm. They are made in Australia but CNC ported and assembled in the USA. They go for $2100 and are a better casting than alot of US stuff.




Does Pro-Comp sponsor anything or any racers?
If I was selling a product, I would put it on a few cars
and made sure I could back up what I say , like,
(a better casting than a lot of US stuff.)
Doesn't sound like to many people heard of them,
or would use them.




They are on a some cars and a lot of test has been done. As far as a better castings goes, I have seen over 50 sets CNC ported without being porous and they are a good hard casting.

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JohnRR



Reged: Jan 20 2003
Loc: U.S.S.A.
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: moparniac]
      #4845488 - Sat Nov 29 2008 07:29 AM

Quote:

Quote:

The new definition of R & D; "Rob & Duplicate"




LOL

but how do people get away with this stuff....




they just do , china doesn't care about US patent laws , many comapnies have stuff made there and the places that make the stuff copy it to a degree undersell them right out the back door.

Northface skiwear is a prime example .


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Streetwize
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: JohnRR]
      #4845500 - Sat Nov 29 2008 07:41 AM



They do it because the Chinese know we can apply ZERO political Leverage on them to stop it.

If we pi$$ them off about unfair trade practices all they have to do is HINT that they will stop buying (or even worse start Dumping) our billions of dollars of treasury bonds.

The USA is DEPENDENT on China, don't you get it?

If they (China as well as Japan and India) were to stop (or even slow down) buying up our debt our interest rates will SKYROCKET.....and soon, very soon, china will have strong enough of a domestic economy where they could "cut the cord" and be self sufficient (as we used to be in the 50's and 60's)...ask yourself what happens then??? We have no more leverage on China than a Crack Addict has on a Drug Lord.

Read the Book "Crash Proof' by Peter Schiff

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Smell Ya Later
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: Cab_Burge]
      #4845503 - Sat Nov 29 2008 07:44 AM

Quote:

Quote:

$725.00 for a cnc ported head


I wonder if there CNC machines cost $1000.00 or $10,000.00 US unlike a good 4 or 5 axis CNC machine made in USA that costs $100,000.00+ that will run 24 hrs.x 7 days a week for many years without loosing tolerances I ahev found that you usually get what you pay for in racing or high perforamnce parts, especially aluminum castings


Very few good 5 axis (or 3 for that matter)CNC machines made here in the states. The best come from japan where we actually steal their designs and use their machines to make our inferior ones. Case in point, Haas uses Mori Seiki's to manufacture their machines..

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Anonymous
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Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: dare_dude]
      #4845664 - Sat Nov 29 2008 09:36 AM

here's some interesting reading, comparing procomp heads to edelbrocks.
160+ hp difference???


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Runner
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Reged: Aug 16 2003
Loc: Idaho
Re: Pro Comp. Heads [Re: ]
      #4845769 - Sat Nov 29 2008 10:31 AM

ive read that companies ship the product from china to australia, then call it australian made and ship it to the states. dont know if thats true or not though.

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