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Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street?
      #3557508 - Sun Jun 10 2007 07:50 AM

If so, How do you like it? How would it differ in performance than a single plane with a mighty demon 850? How are the street manners?
Thanks!


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mark7171
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3557538 - Sun Jun 10 2007 08:14 AM

on the street ? it wouldnt work well at all. if you look at the manifolds they have rpm ranges. a tunnel is for 4000-7000. you cant really drive around with that power band. i know someone who put tight secondary springs in the carbs. they effectively turned it back to a double pumper, and limped around a large single plenum. so it was for looks i guess.

+ tickets for driving without a hood, or obstruction > 6" would add up.

the performer type manifold works great on the street. do you want to bog, or burn rubber ?


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1100HPSmallBlock
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: mark7171]
      #3557583 - Sun Jun 10 2007 08:40 AM

I had an Edelbrock street tunnel ram on my 360 with 390 CFM vacuum sec. carbs,4.30 rear gears and a 3500 stall.It was very streetable.It did not have alot of low end torque but it would smoke the rear tires from about a 20 MPH cruising speed.

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mark7171
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 1100HPSmallBlock]
      #3557632 - Sun Jun 10 2007 09:07 AM

i dont get it...

if i put either 4.30's, or a 3500 stall in a vehicle, it wont be very streetable.


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1100HPSmallBlock
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: mark7171]
      #3557646 - Sun Jun 10 2007 09:17 AM

I ran it for many years on the street with that combo,I got alot of respect too! A 3500 stall is nothing,very streetable, the 4.30 gears just kept you from going out on the interstate.

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Dragula
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 1100HPSmallBlock]
      #3557687 - Sun Jun 10 2007 09:40 AM Attachment (129 downloads)

4.30's are very streetable depending on tire height. I ran them for years with 29" tall tires, very easy to drive even on 40mile trips. I have a tunnel ram on my Hemi right now, and its far better than any cross ram or 4bbl intake I have run, but it is efi.

I have a number SB TR's as well, currently waiting to be used on my latest ride by the way, it has a 3500 stall and 4.56 gears and I drive it every sunny day I get and sometimes as far as 50-60 miles 1-way. Very streetable, and you don't even notice the converter unless you really hammer it. Then it just breaks the 15x29's loose anyways and I have to do some serious steering correction. I do have to mention that I have an A-500 with OD that helps with the gears though.

I have also run a tight 8" 4700 stall on the street with no issues as well, but it was a light car ('72 Cuda).

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Anonymous
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 1100HPSmallBlock]
      #3557706 - Sun Jun 10 2007 09:48 AM

The bigger the engine, the easier it is it seems to run a TR setup on the street. Small cube engines seem to do better when they are set up to run with more rpm. A buddy is running a 68 Charger with a 440, Weiand TR and a couple of Edelbrooks and it runs very well and gets plenty of thumbs up. It has 3.91 gears and 3000 stall and he drives it all over the place. This guy is no dummy but is not real experienced with hot rods so I lent him a hand but it was over the phone only and he got it set up and tuned. I was pretty surprised when he showed up with it and we went for a ride. The grin factor was big. Low rise 2x4 setups have always been a hassle to set up for me and never run as good as the taller intakes do. If you like the looks of 2 carbs and velocity stacks sticking through the hood, go for it but if you like closing the hood on your engine, go with a single carb intake. JMHO.

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mark7171
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 1100HPSmallBlock]
      #3557711 - Sun Jun 10 2007 09:50 AM

streetable, that means to me... i can take it for a cruise. no hassles from cops. taking no cool-down stops, or overheating after 20 miles of driving in traffic. streetable...

those kind of builds usually accompany locked out timming curves, trans coolers, 4000 rpm cruising, and the mess.

if you have a set of 2 chambers, at 4k, doing 65mph youll get rolled.

i havent found a 3000+ stall ride that didnt drive like a hill billy hotrod, or a 4.56 gear that didnt cruise like my valiant in 2nd.

dragula now be like everybody else and turn off the OD. like those 29"s , then go back to 26's

a racecar is a crappy streetcar, a streetcar is crappy racecar.

Edited by mark7171 (Sun Jun 10 2007 08:35 PM)


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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3557724 - Sun Jun 10 2007 10:07 AM Attachment (157 downloads)

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mark7171
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: pro_street_dart]
      #3557743 - Sun Jun 10 2007 10:20 AM

thats bad as hell!

where can i get tubular inner fender supports?


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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3557744 - Sun Jun 10 2007 10:21 AM Attachment (134 downloads)

There's actually one under the hood of my Dart. Sitting on a 440 with two 750 Holleys on top. 4.56 gears and a 4 spd. Streetable? Yea. But not practicle. Do I want practicle? NO. Tap the throttle and instantly blaze the rear tires.

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: 70HemiGTX]
      #3557856 - Sun Jun 10 2007 11:52 AM Attachment (141 downloads)

Works for me too!

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: mopars4ever]
      #3557927 - Sun Jun 10 2007 12:41 PM

I got lot's of friends that have 4.11-5.14 gears and big stall converters that consider them very streetable but they are as stated not real preactical. When ever they go to the strip they have to trailer them the 50 miles one way. A few of us went to a car show 80 miles away and I was the only one that drove but I have 3.55 gears and a 2,200 or so converter and my car is a daily summer driver. Most of these guy's would never consider driving their cars as drivers. Tunnel rams are okay for racing and looking cool but being practical on street? not!

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joedust451
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3557986 - Sun Jun 10 2007 01:20 PM

Ran a Wieand TR & 600 1850s on a 451, low-end torque was no problem with 4.11s, 4100 flash stall (tons of it) & the top-end power was in a class all its own , this set-up was more streetable then my single 750 & M1, Don't listen to what some tell you about TRs , if they have nothing good to say about them, its because they NEVER ran one or they had the wrong carbs & don't know what there talking about , simple as that

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: joedust451]
      #3558004 - Sun Jun 10 2007 01:36 PM

Don't forget we all have different idea's of what is streetable- to me it's a car I drive as a daily driver whether it's a five minute drive or a five hour drive. For my buddy it's car that has has to run on 110 and he can't take on the highway, has to change plugs if he idles to long in traffic. Both our cars are street driven but I guess it depends what you want.

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3558016 - Sun Jun 10 2007 01:44 PM

Thats nice because streetable to me is whatever I'm willing to put up with driving & legally passes state inspection!

I really don't care for single carb tunnel rams but I hear duals work well! ~Mike~


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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: joedust451]
      #3558096 - Sun Jun 10 2007 02:29 PM

i ran a t-ram w/ 500cfm carters on my 400 in a 71 sebring plus w/ 3.91 gears. let me tell yah...the throttle response and pull were UN-FREAKIN-REAL! never really got MPG's with it tho, but then again i really didn't care! LOL!

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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: mark7171]
      #3558120 - Sun Jun 10 2007 02:41 PM

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on the street ? it wouldnt work well at all. if you look at the manifolds they have rpm ranges. a tunnel is for 4000-7000. you cant really drive around with that power band. i know someone who put tight secondary springs in the carbs. they effectively turned it back to a double pumper, and limped around a large single plenum. so it was for looks i guess.

+ tickets for driving without a hood, or obstruction > 6" would add up.

the performer type manifold works great on the street. do you want to bog, or burn rubber ?




In MY opinion.... WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!

I just have to ask mark7171.... have you ever run one yourself? So many misconceptions out there that seem to get forwarded...?


I have driven TONS of tunnel rammed 2x4bbl cars over the years, so has my wife. Her daily driver was a 440 2x4bbl 1980 Cordoba LS for years, no troubles whatsoever. A baby bath carried in the trunk was tossed on the scoop during rain when parked, that was the only hassle....



My daily driven work truck was a mild 440 2x4bbl, STOCK torque converter, it had 1 ton suspension and it was HEAVY. It would roast the tires while pulling a trailer, and could do 20mph roll ons with ease.
All UNDER the hood.



Before my Coupe was taken apart I drove it for years with a tunnel rammed 440 2x4bbl. It was a result of too many problems with a single four barrel, exposed transfer slots etc. The two 4bbl tunnel ram solved all my driveability problems!



My Demon I drove year 'round from 1991 until 2000 when I sold it, I drove it in the snow, in -14 Celcius weather, you name it. It passed AirCare emissions testing with NO detuning ever. I drove it on the rollers, passed, and drove it home. Never failed once. With the tunnel ram.
Any B.C. member can tell you what a pain in the rear the AirCare tests can be too.



Notice all the vehicles pictured also had POWER brakes.

It's the combination, if you toss two 850 double pumps on a stock 360 with a tunnel ram, odds are there will be LOTS of trouble, and everybody will be pointing at the tunnel ram.
If you build a well thought out package it will be a driveable vehicle.
It's all in the entire sum of the parts IMO.


I was going to put a tunnel ram and two four barrels on my motorhome, just for the idiocy of it all, but it wouldn't fit in the doghouse.

Besides, I woulda been in the doghouse with my Chickee....


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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: joedust451]
      #3558128 - Sun Jun 10 2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Ran a Wieand TR & 600 1850s on a 451, low-end torque was no problem with 4.11s, 4100 flash stall (tons of it) & the top-end power was in a class all its own , this set-up was more streetable then my single 750 & M1, Don't listen to what some tell you about TRs , if they have nothing good to say about them, its because they NEVER ran one or they had the wrong carbs & don't know what there talking about , simple as that






My work truck was a WORK TRUCK. tunnel ram, 2x4bbls, and driven every day all over the place, rush hour traffic, summer, winter, hauling cars ON trailers etc....

Two 450 cfm Holley center floats, they worked like a dream. Never had a better running carbureted truck.


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mark7171
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
      #3558261 - Sun Jun 10 2007 03:55 PM

yes ive used a tr. yes, a TR will give 30 hp or so over a dialed hot 4 barrel. the TR manifolds do not produce good velocities at reasonable street rpms. if your using hi 4000 stalls or 5 series ring gears, i dont associate those with streetable components. your combination tells me enough of whats going on.

you cannot drive around at 4000 rpms all tunnel ram and headers. the cops will pull you over.

-no a 4000 stall doesnt lock up at 4000 exactly. it does mean your not cruising at 2200 anymore.





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draginmopars
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
      #3558279 - Sun Jun 10 2007 04:00 PM Attachment (112 downloads)

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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: mark7171]
      #3558305 - Sun Jun 10 2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

yes but, your stories contradict my expirience. the manifolds do not produce correct velocities at reasonable street rpms. if your using hi 4000 stalls or 5 series ring gears, i dont associate those with streetable components. your combination tells me enough of whats going on.

again you cannot drive around at 4000 rpms all tunnel ram and headers. the cops will pull you over.






Let's try this again- FIRST... who is "driving around at 4000 rpm"?
My truck was driven daily, nobody would have POSSIBLY known there was a 2x4bbl tunnel ram on it if they never popped the hood.
I never had 4000rpm stall converters in ANY of my vehicles with tunnel rams. My truck was a STOCK converter. It pulled out of the hole like crazy. It was HEAVY too.

My work truck- tunnel ram, two four barrel carbs, and headers.




I ran all sorts of gears in most of my cars, I had 5.13 gears in my Demon at one point, but I drove it on the highway. The tires were 33" tall.
My Coupe I am building now has 33" tall tires and 4.10 gears. It will be VERY highway friendly.

It's all about the package IMO?

I have never been pulled over because of a tunnel ram, never had any cop mention anything about my tunnel rams. Maybe it's where you live, but where I live the cops could care less.
I had an Australian visitor who said I couldn't drive through town in a tubbed car without being in big trouble. I drove tubbed cars for decades and decades where I live. Nobody cares.

What experience do you have with a tunnel ram? Engine specs, vehicle, carbs etc? Tell us what you ran?

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3558337 - Sun Jun 10 2007 04:23 PM

Thanks everybody! I was planning on puting it on an eddy headed 440 with a nice solid cam. I haven't planned the engine out yet so I have no specs. I do plan on using a vaccuum pump for my brakes. It's not going to be a daily driver and will probably see 500 miles a year. I just feel the need to have a Mr.Gasket scoop popping otta my hood. As for street legal, I believe if the DMV is dumb enough to give me a license plate then it's streetable. Thanks again all!

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: draginmopars]
      #3558338 - Sun Jun 10 2007 04:23 PM

All I know is from my experience. My 528 Hemi is running around with 4:10 gears,(until I get a 4:56 dana). 31" tires. I've got a Weiand Tunnelram with 2 modified 750 eddies, with ram air box and filter all UNDER the hood. The cam is 272/274@.050, 5000~stall convertor. The carbs are tuned with an LM-1 meter and it starts, idles, runs beautiful in stop-in-go traffic, will smoke the tires from a 50 mph roll,or completely shread them at lower speeds. Throttle response is as good as any single or duel plane I've ever run. It also got 10mpg the last time I went to cruise nite, 100+miles round trip. It also pulls and pulls and pulls, at 7000rpm it's still pressing you back in the seat with no end in sight. Dave

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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: quickd100]
      #3558353 - Sun Jun 10 2007 04:31 PM

Quote:

All I know is from my experience. My 528 Hemi is running around with 4:10 gears,(until I get a 4:56 dana). 31" tires. I've got a Weiand Tunnelram with 2 modified 750 eddies, with ram air box and filter all UNDER the hood. The cam is 272/274@.050, 5000~stall convertor. The carbs are tuned with an LM-1 meter and it starts, idles, runs beautiful in stop-in-go traffic, will smoke the tires from a 50 mph roll,or completely shread them at lower speeds. Throttle response is as good as any single or duel plane I've ever run. It also got 10mpg the last time I went to cruise nite, 100+miles round trip. It also pulls and pulls and pulls, at 7000rpm it's still pressing you back in the seat with no end in sight. Dave




And if I was in a single 4bbl well built CAR, I would be hesitant to pull beside you....






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joedust451
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: mark7171]
      #3558473 - Sun Jun 10 2007 05:35 PM

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yes but, your stories contradict my expirience. the manifolds do not produce correct velocities at reasonable street rpms. if your using hi 4000 stalls or 5 series ring gears, i dont associate those with streetable components. your combination tells me enough of whats going on.

again you cannot drive around at 4000 rpms all tunnel ram and headers. the cops will pull you over.






When i said 4100 "flash" stall, thats what i ment, it would foot brake to 2000 before busting the tires loose, theres a BIG difference between flash stall & foot brake stall, if you ever ran a GOOD quality converter, you would no this, i ran all over the place with a 4000 unit.

If you would stop listening to the CHEBBY guys & listen when we say "THEY WORK" on mopars, i'm not saying to put a TR with 2 750 DPers on a 8.1 318 with a stock converter & 2.76 gears, you wouldn't be too happy

But a mild to moderately built SB or BB with 4.11s & a nice street converter, put on the right carbs & your set.

I put mine together with 2 swap meet 1850-2s that i paid 15.00 a piece for, hooked up the fuels lines, the car was sitting for 3 weeks, i put (3) 1/2 throttle pumps & it fired right up & idled at 1000 rpm, i was to say the least, throttle responce was un-frigin-real, when i drove it around, i was at all the guys that told me it would be a big mistake.

TRs were the hot ticket back when i was a kid, they worked then (on the street from stop light to stop light) & they work today, there just making a big comeback, have i said enough , i'll shut up now


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DJVCuda
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
      #3558560 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:20 PM

to all you people with these opinions.....

HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY RAN A TUNNEL RAM ON THE STREET???

if you answered NO.... then butt out! your opinions are not really backed up with anything other then wives tales and crap!

I run a eddy street ram and LOVE IT!
I HAVE 3.23's - I take the car 2.5 hours to carlisle and dont even think about if the tunnel ram will make it or not...

I GET 16 mpg'S - WITH A TUNNEL RAM

a 360 with 2-holley 390's and a dynamic 3800 stall converter that was built for my setup.

3.23's with a 26" tall tire will get me down the quarter in 12.56 seconds at 106 mph with a 1,74 6o' time.... with stock 1.88 intake valve heads...

i have been waiting for this low end problem and i didnt even have it with the mopar 2500 ( 175k ) cheapo converter i had in before... it was never there...

I have a hilborn scoop and run a shower cap in the rain. thats it... I'll drive it anywhere anytime and sit in traffic with it too.... so bring on your misconceptions and put your money where your mouth is...

fact of the matter is my car would not be nearly as fast without the t-ram... plain and simple and pulling more MPG's then my 01 dakota r/t is saying something too,,, but it must not be streetable.....for some people...all of this on a stock rebuilt 360 with some kb flattops in it...lol





here i am getting caught in a rain storm on the way to carlisle...





the unstreetable top end.....



tunnel ram+3.23's+ slicks = BOG??/ no it ='s a 1.74 60' time...



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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda]
      #3558582 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:27 PM

I didn't want to mention the decent gas mileage part, I thought I would be thrown to the wolves.

LOL

I'm thinking mike7171- are you thinking a 4000rpm stall converter won't move the car until 4000 rpms, or?


My 3200 rpm converter in my Demon felt much like a stock converter unless the pedal was pounded.


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DJVCuda
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
      #3558595 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:31 PM

i have been replying to these posts for years, and they bug me....


i'll bolt on a dual plane and I bet my car will be slower...

a 3430 lb car with 3.23's and stock smal valve heads in the mid 12's?? nope....


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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda]
      #3558605 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:34 PM

Yeah, me too, but what do you do?

Mine were all driven hard on a daily basis. I don't know where the "overheating" stuff comes from, not a clue????

I would say take a good look at your combo, your numbers, and your opinion. Seems like you've sorted it out pretty danged well....



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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda]
      #3558622 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:40 PM

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if you answered NO.... then butt out! your opinions are not really backed up with anything other then wives tales and crap!







its the same as the clowns that go around telling everyone that a big block A-Body won't handle at all.. and how they are only good for striaght lines... or the clowns that said for years that a big block doesn't fit into an early a-body....


don't worry about it guys.. you know what you have and how it runs. if they don't want to believe it then the heck with them. they are the ones missing out....

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DJVCuda
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
      #3558628 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:42 PM

sorted out? not really... the carbs are basically stock,, I put a balance tube in between them and a lighter spring... I'm just tired of hearing all the babble and false opinions...lol

i posted my combo here and asked what it will run... i got mostly 14 second estimates.... i ran 13.3 my first time out... i have over 5000 miles on this setup and will never take the manifold off.... no way!!

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CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: abodyjoe]
      #3558640 - Sun Jun 10 2007 06:46 PM

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its the same as the clowns that go around telling everyone that a big block A-Body won't handle at all.. and how they are only good for striaght lines...






hey, mine was tubbed with 19.50s, it handled better than I'm willing to say.


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Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: DJVCuda]
      #3558677 - Sun Jun 10 2007 07:01 PM

Quote:

i have been replying to these posts for years, and they bug me....


i'll bolt on a dual plane and I bet my car will be slower...

a 3430 lb car with 3.23's and stock smal valve heads in the mid 12's?? nope....





DJVCuda, your advise has not been waisted. I just got back from putting 390s on my brothers 340 Swinger with M1 T ram and it runs GREAT !!! We got a pair of rebuilt, but zink ? coated(better than new), 390s from a carb shop on Long Island (ebay). The car has sat for the last few yrs because after cutting and repainting the hood and getting it all set up for the T ram it ran like hell with 450s on it, and my brother lost interest. Now after bolting on these carbs and a little tweeking it runs smoother than it did with a single 625 carter and LD340 intake. We will be getting it all cleaned up and driving it 3 1/2 hours to Carlisle next month. THANK YOU VERY MUCH , you were on the money with your advise

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RedRam
Uncle Jesse Duke


Reged: Jan 19 2003
Loc: Appalachia
Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: B1duster]
      #3559001 - Sun Jun 10 2007 08:52 PM

Love my M1 TR w/850's. Throttle response is instantaneous.
My setup is not "practical", it is obnoxious and I love it.
Haven't got the milage thing worked out yet but I am getting there, need an LM1.
Works great on the street, cruise around at 2500rpm, stab the throttle and it goes to 4500 instantly and all heck breaks loose.
Works great puttin around the farm also lol.
Try it, you will like it!



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joedust451
super gas


Reged: Feb 09 2005
Loc: Branson, Mo.
Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: RedRam]
      #3559049 - Sun Jun 10 2007 09:08 PM Attachment (227 downloads)

Here was mine, i miss my duster

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joedust451
super gas


Reged: Feb 09 2005
Loc: Branson, Mo.
Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: joedust451]
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DJVCuda
Master


Reged: Aug 18 2003
Loc: Atco NJ
Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: B1duster]
      #3559354 - Mon Jun 11 2007 05:14 AM

Dan.... You gotta stop by and say HI at calisle!!!

Glad to hear about the progress!!!

that made my morning!


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dberlien
member


Reged: Nov 11 2005
Loc: Delton, MI
Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: ]
      #3559402 - Mon Jun 11 2007 06:22 AM

I run a .030 over 440 with 10 to 1 flattops, pocket ported heads with .509/312 (advertised) cam, headers, 4-speed, 3.55 gears and two 500 cfm Edelbrocks. Very streetable, lots of low end grunt, no problems at all. I have run the Woodward Dream Cruise numerous times and other than my clutch leg getting tired, it was no problem at all. Granted, with the cam it still lopes up to 50 mph and the mileage is not great at 10 mpg (babying it). But, I wouldn't hesitate to tunnel ram and two small fours on a big block. If you were running a 727, you would need loose converter or a much less radical cam.

I have also run a 340 with the same basic setup and it wasn't any fun at all! Not enough torque, a bit like a two-stroke dirt bike. It was either "on the pipe" or not.


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2boltmain
master


Reged: Jul 26 2003
Loc: MI Allegan county
Re: Anyone run a tunnel ram on the street? [Re: dberlien]
      #3559465 - Mon Jun 11 2007 07:11 AM

I do believe lots of people tried to utilize USED holley carbs that were warped and "fiddled" to death. Always good to go new with the 2 carbs unless you KNOW the carbs are good. Lots of guys running 2 double pumpers on an 8 to 1 small block ect ect . Seems the big block mopar is fine with tunnel rams on the street but big block chevies are very sluggish down low.

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