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Image a Rev-N-Nator AND a Tornado on the same engine!!! Nothing could stop it! The world has changed...

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This may even top Chryslers RETROENCABULATOR!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4

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Image a Rev-N-Nator AND a Tornado on the same engine!!! Nothing could stop it! The world has changed...

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This may even top Chryslers RETROENCABULATOR!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4

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Hello Mr Detroit Muscle,
Thanks for your kind comments!!! We have used and recommended your products to many of our customers!
Thanks Troy & Laura

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R/T Garage:
I wish you good luck on your new ECU box. The Mopar aftermarket needs a solid and reliable ECU box to offer to those of us who would like to run this style of ignition system. I can't imagine how much time and money it would take to try and create a new aftermarket ECU and I respect you and the other people in our communities that have the balls to create such an item and try and market them.

Note: It would be helpfull to those of us interested if you would correct the A/F ratios on the next dyno sessions so that we could review the hp/tq numbers that each ECU is creating while using the same A/F ratio.

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i think what i'd like to see is the engine tuned to peak efficiency with each ignition system.
that means optimal timing and jetting for each system. it appears that, that might not have been done.
i see some pretty big changes in the scfm, A/F and bsfc between the 3 systems.

how does the same engine use more air but make less HP and torque??? there's a simple answer, but i'll just leave it at that for now.
i hate to say it, but i don't think those dyno pulls represent a true apples to apples comparison.
i'd be happy to test your box on a dyno mule that will repeat numbers run after run and report the results if your willing.

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i think what i'd like to see is the engine tuned to peak efficiency with each ignition system.
that means optimal timing and jetting for each system. it appears that, that might not have been done.
i see some pretty big changes in the scfm, A/F and bsfc between the 3 systems.

how does the same engine use more air but make less HP and torque??? there's a simple answer, but i'll just leave it at that for now.
i hate to say it, but i don't think those dyno pulls represent a true apples to apples comparison.
i'd be happy to test your box on a dyno mule that will repeat numbers run after run and report the results if your willing.

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Please stop acting like a politician and post the whole dyno runs. This is an infomercial at best right now.

Please show us the data from idle to 3500 rpm or stop hocking us...ok??? I am shocked how stupid you think we are.

"Average street cars" your quote...

Last I knew "Average street cars" typically operate between 600 rpm and 3500 rpm.

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In his defense,and I don't know him ,or who is doing his dyno pulls,most engine dynos struggle to pull a high torque engine down under 3000 rpm.
For whatever reason,this dyno operator is starting a little higher rpm pull than that. It takes an operator a lot of time to adjust the dyno to pull low rpm's and some are not equipped to do so. Most are set up for 350 to 400 cubic inch hi-rpm screamers that make power up top.

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You just need an old Stuska Dyno like my builder has. Throttle in the right hand and the water brake valve in the left. Those Superflo and DTS type 5 second "zinnng" pulls are a joke IMHO.

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We will keep everyone updated! Should have both dynos completed in the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Thanks again, Troy and Laura

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You just need an old Stuska Dyno like my builder has. Throttle in the right hand and the water brake valve in the left. Those Superflo and DTS type 5 second "zinnng" pulls are a joke IMHO.

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I don't want to get to far off topic,but my Superflow will pull low rpm's and can be manually controlled just like his "old Stuska". But it can also be set to pull at different servo controlled rates which allows repeatable accurate pulls that a manual test can't equal,which makes for better comparisons from pull to pull.Not every operator wants to take the effort to make the changes.
I don't want to argue on here,but if you want some information on how different dyno's work,feel free to P.M. me.
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i knew one day we'd find common ground. i have no use for a manually controlled dyno. they're not repeatable and typically the Stuska is known for happy numbers to boot.

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Hello Everyone! This is The R/T Garage! We have updated news on The "Rev-n-nator". There has been many hrs of research and development with The Rev-n-nator in cars for the last 12 months and just finished nine hours of Dyno testing at Induction Research in Shakopee, MN. We used a pump gas 440 built by Steve Vermeer. The results were very impressive. There were approximately 30 Dyno pulls using a stock Mopar Orange box, MSD 7AL and the Rev-n-nator.
RESULTS:
MOPAR ORANGE BOX 518.8 Torque @ 3700rpm/ 514.7 HP @ 5700rpm

MSD 7-AL 519.7 Torque @ 3700rpm/ 527.6 HP @ 5700rpm

REV-N-NATOR 565.5 Torque @ 3700rpm/ 566.7 HP @ 5700rpm

This was done all on the same day with all the same settings and timing set at 32 degrees. We are cranked up about the results!! There will be a follow up dyno session in the next 30 days. We will keep you updated with the next results and scheduled release date.
WE UNDERSTAND THESE ARE HUGE GAINS, THERE CAN BE MANY FACTORS FOR THIS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP DYNO WITH DIFFERENT MOTORS AND DYNO LOCATIONS!!

Thank you from Troy & Laura at the R/T Garage

www.thertgarage.com

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I haven't made one single negative statement here anywhere, nor have I harassed anyone. A little over anxious perhaps, but that's to be expected. Anyway, just keeping the post alive, bumping it back to the top every now and again.

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Come on guys, we're all in this together. Lighten up and let them finish up their development and testing. You can't fault them for being excited and you have to admire them for investing so much time and money in this product. All they've done is post some 1st pass results. Of course there will be questions and more testing and likely another round after that.

They've not take any of your money and not delivered. They're posting about a new product that could be a great offering for us. If you don't like what you see here stop reading. If you've questions, ask as it appears Troy is taking it all in without getting defensive. If I were Troy I'd have been pretty upset by now with some of your comments.

I met Troy and his lovely wife this past week for the 1st time. We blasted and powder coated a Charger K frame and front suspension components for them.

They're a sincere, pleasant and enthusiastic couple doing what they obviously love. We talked at length about the project. My read is they are for real and are working their tails off to bring this thing to market. I'll sure buy when they're ready.

Now, feel free to attack me.

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Here's a clue since you don't have one- they posted some wild claims. Totally untrue and anybody with a brain knew that. If you didn't like "the comments", then you were free to not read. Just like they were free to not post they got something like 40 HP more than long time industry standard ignition components.

Now they have walked it back to much more plausible numbers. Great. That does not however mean that questioning the baseless numbers in the original post was out of line. Your condescending tone is a joke. Since you say "feel free to not read and respond", we can be assured that you will sit the rest of this one out and not comment from your pious perch.

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Come on guys, we're all in this together. Lighten up and let them finish up their development and testing. You can't fault them for being excited and you have to admire them for investing so much time and money in this product. All they've done is post some 1st pass results. Of course there will be questions and more testing and likely another round after that.

They've not take any of your money and not delivered. They're posting about a new product that could be a great offering for us. If you don't like what you see here stop reading. If you've questions, ask as it appears Troy is taking it all in without getting defensive. If I were Troy I'd have been pretty upset by now with some of your comments.

I met Troy and his lovely wife this past week for the 1st time. We blasted and powder coated a Charger K frame and front suspension components for them.

They're a sincere, pleasant and enthusiastic couple doing what they obviously love. We talked at length about the project. My read is they are for real and are working their tails off to bring this thing to market. I'll sure buy when they're ready.

Now, feel free to attack me.

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Here's a clue since you don't have one- they posted some wild claims. Totally untrue and anybody with a brain knew that. If you didn't like "the comments", then you were free to not read. Just like they were free to not post they got something like 40 HP more than long time industry standard ignition components.

Now they have walked it back to much more plausible numbers. Great. That does not however mean that questioning the baseless numbers in the original post was out of line. Your condescending tone is a joke. Since you say "feel free to not read and respond", we can be assured that you will sit the rest of this one out and not comment from your pious perch.

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I guess since I don't have a clue, you'll need to explain to me how I could be pious but on a perch sounding condescending. Maybe it's the use of words longer than 4 letters long that's causing you trouble here. All I can say is I refuse to have a battle of wits with an obviously unarmed person.

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Come on guys, we're all in this together. Lighten up and let them finish up their development and testing. You can't fault them for being excited and you have to admire them for investing so much time and money in this product. All they've done is post some 1st pass results. Of course there will be questions and more testing and likely another round after that.

They've not take any of your money and not delivered. They're posting about a new product that could be a great offering for us. If you don't like what you see here stop reading. If you've questions, ask as it appears Troy is taking it all in without getting defensive. If I were Troy I'd have been pretty upset by now with some of your comments.

I met Troy and his lovely wife this past week for the 1st time. We blasted and powder coated a Charger K frame and front suspension components for them.

They're a sincere, pleasant and enthusiastic couple doing what they obviously love. We talked at length about the project. My read is they are for real and are working their tails off to bring this thing to market. I'll sure buy when they're ready.

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Here's a clue since you don't have one- they posted some wild claims. Totally untrue and anybody with a brain knew that. If you didn't like "the comments", then you were free to not read. Just like they were free to not post they got something like 40 HP more than long time industry standard ignition components.

Now they have walked it back to much more plausible numbers. Great. That does not however mean that questioning the baseless numbers in the original post was out of line. Your condescending tone is a joke. Since you say "feel free to not read and respond", we can be assured that you will sit the rest of this one out and not comment from your pious perch.

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I guess since I don't have a clue, you'll need to explain to me how I could be pious but on a perch sounding condescending. Maybe it's the use of words longer than 4 letters long that's causing you trouble here. All I can say is I refuse to have a battle of wits with an obviously unarmed person.

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You must walk around looking down at people so much that it has never even occured to you that you are doing it. So you think people shouldn't express concern over a 40 HP claimed increase? Really guy? A real white knight you are to ride in here to defend an obviously flawed claim or more likely "shock value" marketing attempt.

Worse yet, you say "if you don't like it stop reading". I guess you feel that you are entitled to read and comment, but the rest of us aren't. Why don't you follow your own doctrine and quit reading? That way you will be spared the pain and suffering it causes you to read.

I suppose though, you would rather to keep on with the "You do what I say, I'll do what I want to do" mantra.

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Come on guys, we're all in this together. Lighten up and let them finish up their development and testing. You can't fault them for being excited and you have to admire them for investing so much time and money in this product. All they've done is post some 1st pass results. Of course there will be questions and more testing and likely another round after that.

They've not take any of your money and not delivered. They're posting about a new product that could be a great offering for us. If you don't like what you see here stop reading. If you've questions, ask as it appears Troy is taking it all in without getting defensive. If I were Troy I'd have been pretty upset by now with some of your comments.

I met Troy and his lovely wife this past week for the 1st time. We blasted and powder coated a Charger K frame and front suspension components for them.

They're a sincere, pleasant and enthusiastic couple doing what they obviously love. We talked at length about the project. My read is they are for real and are working their tails off to bring this thing to market. I'll sure buy when they're ready.

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Here's a clue since you don't have one- they posted some wild claims. Totally untrue and anybody with a brain knew that. If you didn't like "the comments", then you were free to not read. Just like they were free to not post they got something like 40 HP more than long time industry standard ignition components.

Now they have walked it back to much more plausible numbers. Great. That does not however mean that questioning the baseless numbers in the original post was out of line. Your condescending tone is a joke. Since you say "feel free to not read and respond", we can be assured that you will sit the rest of this one out and not comment from your pious perch.

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I guess since I don't have a clue, you'll need to explain to me how I could be pious but on a perch sounding condescending. Maybe it's the use of words longer than 4 letters long that's causing you trouble here. All I can say is I refuse to have a battle of wits with an obviously unarmed person.

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You must walk around looking down at people so much that it has never even occured to you that you are doing it. So you think people shouldn't express concern over a 40 HP claimed increase? Really guy? A real white knight you are to ride in here to defend an obviously flawed claim or more likely "shock value" marketing attempt.

Worse yet, you say "if you don't like it stop reading". I guess you feel that you are entitled to read and comment, but the rest of us aren't. Why don't you follow your own doctrine and quit reading? That way you will be spared the pain and suffering it causes you to read.

I suppose though, you would rather to keep on with the "You do what I say, I'll do what I want to do" mantra.

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Its not like he just made the claim he did post the dyno sheets and so we could see for ourselves.

In which memebers of this board saw different a/f ratio and explain to the orignal poster that would cause the huge difference.

The OP then ran more dyno test and yet again posted them for us which not one shows the OP learned from his mistakes and is a stand up guy.

Even after all this people still dogpiled on the OP in the typical Moparts style which IMO was uncalled for. This is not directed at either poster but can we now stop the rant back and forth and just hear more about the product or at the very least bring it to PM.

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Thanks for the kind words and for the great job on the blasting and powder coating!!! Thanks Troy & Laura

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I think this explains some of the "support". Nothing like standing up for somebody that pays you. That sure sheds some light on the anger directed at those on the outside looking in. Nothing like an impartial observer.

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So logically, you post that people shouldn't comment, yet miss out that you are doing the same. The OP posted some new, more plausible numbers. Then the white knights come out to say that they shouldn't have been questioned.

The best thing of all wold have been for the whole dyno thing to have been held back until reliable data had been secured. Not to run on here with an outlandish claim that couldn't be validated. That would 've saved any and all trouble/comments. Yet some of you feel the need to pile on those that were not convinced.

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Even after all this people still dogpiled on the OP in the typical Moparts style which IMO was uncalled for. This is not directed at either poster but can we now stop the rant back and forth and just hear more about the product or at the very least bring it to PM.

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